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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
Cracker Muncher, you know less about microbiology than you do about your gods. You know nothing.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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candle2 Member (Idle past 124 days) Posts: 892 Joined: |
Tangle, I stated that you as a hard atheist must explain
how life started. You replied, "Must I, why, because you demand it? What ifI don't know." I understand that you don't know. I understand this withcrystal clear clarity. I know this; you know this; and, so does everyone else onthis forum. It might be that since you promote a certain agenda thatit would be a good idea to know exactly all that it entails. I know how life began, and I have stated so many times. You, on the other hand, have not the slightest idea of howlife began.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.6
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candle2 writes:
It's been said only a few thousand times so you probably missed it. Atheism is a disbelief in Gods. That's it, nothing else. It might be that since you promote a certain agenda thatit would be a good idea to know exactly all that it entails. I know how life began, and I have stated so many times. No you don't, you have a belief. Belief is not knowledge. You, on the other hand, have not the slightest idea of how life began. I can't count the number of things I don't know. Somehow I get by.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
The Lord graciously keeps you around because you know how to fish and you know just the bait to use for atheists! Not that I ever asked Him of course!
Our world is in a tangled mess these days! We need more fishermen and less Evangelists!
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candle2 Member (Idle past 124 days) Posts: 892 Joined: |
Tangle, it has been, and still is, a very busy time for me. I
have had very little time to reply, but here is a abbreviated reply. I do know have life started. I also know that it is quite hilarious for someone whodoesn't have the slightest idea of life's origin(s) to tell others that they are just as ignorant as he himself is. In this instance, ignorance simply refers to not knowing. Also, I do know that God exists. I know it beyond anydoubt. It is not necessary for you to agree with me. There are dozens of prophecies about Jesus in the OTthat were fulfilled in the NT. Numerous archaeological discoveries have validatedBiblical assertions. For instance Hezekiah's seal, as well as his tunnel have been unearthed. Many archeologists use the Bible as a guide in which tolead them. Compare the "Ipuwer Papyrus", which is dated to at least1250 BC, to the Book of Exodus, especially concerning the 10 plagues. The "I P" validates the Exodus account. I could list many more examples of the Bible beingverified, but at present, I don't have the time. I volunteer at two animal shelters; plus, several othersand myself break up garden plots for the elderly who cannot do so. We then plant them a garden. I am not tooting my own horn; believe me. I am simplyletting you know that sooner or later I will reply.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
As the boats gradually receded, the sluice gate, the
turf-boat and the notice board continued to be visible to the naked eye for about four miles. When the sluice gate and the turf-boat (being of a dark colour) became somewhat indistinct, the notice board (which was white) was still plainly visible, and remained so to the end of six miles. But on looking through the telescope all the objects were distinctly visible throughoutthe whole distance. On reaching Welney Bridge I made very careful and repeated observations, and finding several men upon the banks of the canal, I called them to look through the telescope. They all saw distinctly the white notice board, the sluice gate, and the black turf-boat moored near them. Now, as the telescope was 18in. above the water, The line of sight would touch thehorizon at one mile and a half away (if the surface were convex). The curvature of the remaining four miles and a half would be 13ft. 6in. Hence the turf-boat should have been 11ft., the top of the sluice gate 7ft. 10in., and the bottom of the notice board 7ft. below the horizon. The Flat Earth Society Wiki | Experimental EvidenceStop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
candle writes: I do know have life started. I think you have to do a bit of research on the diffence beteween knowledge and belief.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2338 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.9
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There are dozens of prophecies about Jesus in the OT
Oh another one who's fallen for Loki's tricks. The little scamp plants false religions to lead people away from the Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Odin the Allfather.that were fulfilled in the NT. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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candle2 Member (Idle past 124 days) Posts: 892 Joined: |
Tangle, exactly what research will set me straight?
Whatever it is, it hasn't set you straight. By your own admission, you are as ignorant as a rockas to how the universe was created, or to how life began. Why don't you ask your buddies AZ and Dr. Jones togive you advise? Judging by their posts, they seem to be at least twelveyears old.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.6
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candle2 writes: Tangle, exactly what research will set me straight? Start with a dictionary. Knowledge is something that can be shown to be evidentially true; a belief is something that you hope is true but there is no evidence for. Children believe in Father Christmas, adults know he doesn't exist. By your own admission, you are as ignorant as a rock as to how the universe was created, or to how life began. And so is everybody else. We do not have that knowledge. You have a particular belief, billions believe something different. That's what happens with beliefs, you can have your own personal little story if you like. Knowledge is rather different, there is only one V=IxR. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
So essentially you are saying that if we dont have the knowledge of God or to prove God, Our lack of such knowledge equates to His lack of existence? Since when does human knowledge justify existence?
What if God was an equation?
Humans may have many different equations, but only one equation provides the answer. Or are you prepared to argue against that?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
Phat writes: So essentially you are saying that if we dont have the knowledge of God or to prove God, Our lack of such knowledge equates to His lack of existence? No, that's not what I'm saying, you should have stuck with that critical thinking course - if you ever started it. There is a difference between knowledge and belief. If you have knowledge about something you don't need belief do you? We don't know whether god exists or not but some people believe he does anyway. Lack of knowledge doesn't prove non-existence but it is a bloody big clue.
Since when does human knowledge justify existence?
I don't think that actually means anything. I can't make much sense of it anyway. What if God was an equation? eh? Does everyone have to agree on the equation? Must humans by definition define such an equation or can the equation be defined by itself? Humans may have many different equations, but only one equation provides the answer. Or are you prepared to argue against that? wtf are you talking about?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
This is just word salad. You really need to make an appointment and get your meds checked.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
I will do just that. Even my critics occasionally have my best interests at heart.
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candle2 Member (Idle past 124 days) Posts: 892 Joined: |
Tangle, I was going to list some archaeological discoveries
that highly supports places and people mentioned in the Bible. However, I am going to post some promises made toAbraham, Isaac, and Jacob (whose name was changed by God to Israel), as well as these promises and blessings being fulfilled. God promised Abraham that he would become the fatherof many nations, ant that his kings would come out of him. He was promised that hisdescendants would be as numerousas the dust of the earth, and as the stars in the heavens. Also that his descendants would be as numerous as the sand. Abraham was also promised that a great and mightynation would come through him. And that through him all nations would be blessed. Abrahams's descendants were to spread to the East,West, North and South. Genesis 13:14-17; 15:4-5; 17:1-8; 18:18 & 22:16-18. God promised Abraham's son Isaac that He would keepsthrough him the oaths that He made to his father. This was because Abraham had kept God's Commandments, statutes, and laws. Genesis 26:2-5. Issac's son, Jacob (Israel) was blessed by his father thathis descendants would enjoy the dew from heaven and the fatness of the earth. Israel was to receive the blessings of his grandfather,Abraham. Israel was to be the father of a multitude of people, asnumerous as the dust. And that his descendants would spread to the East, West, North, and South. Israel was also promised that his descendants wouldbecome a great nation and a company of nations. Genesis 27:26-29; 28:3-4, 13-14; 35:9-15. These promises by God to Abraham were to befulfilled through Isaac, not Ishmael. Likewise the promises made to Isaac were to comethrough Jacob (Israel), not Esau. This is going to be somewhat lengthy. I must post itthroughout the day during my breaks. I am trying to make a very important point.
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