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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I'm also not stupid; I have three degrees in radically different disciples, two at Master's level, one from Cambridge University, England.
Intelligence is a curious thing... highly intelligent people can be downright stupid in certain areas of thought. "One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool" - George Orwell
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8055 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
Sadly - and rather disturbingly - your answer to all the above is "Yes". Yes, of course. That is why I am a Truly Hard AtheistTM. You really latch onto the obvious, don't you cracker-head?Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Tangled writes:
Happiness and experiences don't add up to meaning. You're just a bunch of molecules that is here today and will be gone tomorrow, so you have no more meaning than a bag of mud. I'm also very happy. I'm long time married with kids, a good job that I like (in fact it's my own business), plenty of savings, a nice paid for house in a nice neighbourhood and good friends. I live in a modern western democracy with freedom to do pretty much what I like, free health care and education and a corruption free criminal justice system and I'm still healthy. In fact, I won the lottery of life. I have meaning in my life - plenty of meaning, life is good, I enjoy life. If you come from nothing and go back to nothing, whatever happens in between (life) is also nothing. You're sense of meaning is just an illogical (and meaningless) delusion. But since life is meaningless (according to atheism), it doesn't matter if you live your life in a fog of delusion. Anything goes, coz everything means nothing..
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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
APauling writes:
But you're still my best friend. That is why I am a Truly Hard Atheist![]()
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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Tangled writes:
No, but what I do get is that for someone with three degrees (in radically different disciples, two at Master's level, one from Cambridge University, England), you're a very shallow thinker. I'm asking you to accept that - atheist, not stupid, happy with meaning in my life - ok, got it? P.S. Any degree offered by any Humanities faculty is not a real degree.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8055 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
P.S. Any degree offered by any Humanities faculty is not a real degree. That applies to your top academic achievement, Participation Certificate in Cracker Dynamics. It has no intellectual value.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
So true, but the Eucharist is not about being about intellectual. It's infinity more than that.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
infinitely
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8055 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
So true, but the Eucharist is not about being about intellectual. Oh, that is so true. No intelligent thought to any of your creed.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
APauling666 writes:
"Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you considers himself wise in this age, let him become a fool so as to become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God" (1Cor 3:18-19).
No intelligent thought to any of your creed.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4033 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
Funny, the Protestants say the same thing...gibberish.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8055 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
"Let no one be deceived by stories from priests. Their goals are to make knowledge and wisdom foolish so to strengthen obedience." (AZPaul3 4:20)
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tangle Member Posts: 9109 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.0 |
Dredge writes: Happiness and experiences don't add up to meaning. You're just a bunch of molecules that is here today and will be gone tomorrow, so you have no more meaning than a bag of mud. If you come from nothing and go back to nothing, whatever happens in between (life) is also nothing. You're sense of meaning is just an illogical (and meaningless) delusion. I was wondering when you'd have to resort to arguing about the meaning of words rather than the substantive argument. What I and others here have said many times is that we find meaning in our lives. That's a statement of fact. But since life is meaningless (according to atheism), it doesn't matter if you live your life in a fog of delusion. We've also said that there is no ultimate purpose for life being here at all. They are two different statements aren't they? We're saying that even though life itself has no ultimate purpose, we can find meaning for ourselves in being alive. And that's enough for us. We don't need to create an imaginary purpose for life in order to find meaning in our own lives.
Anything goes, coz everything means nothing.. Another factually wrong statement. Quite clearly 'anything' does not go. Despite being an atheist I lead a very Christian life. Can you square that circle, lawyer? Why am I not a murdering rapist?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2787 From: Australia Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Tanypteryx writes:
"the natural man does not accept what pertains to the Spirit of God, for to him it is foolishness, and he cannot understand it, because it is spiritually discerned." (1Cor 2:14)
gibberish
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candle2 Member Posts: 428 Joined: |
Tangle, you state that you are an atheist; in fact a hard
atheist. As a hard-core atheist you cannot rely on theisticevolution to explain the origin of life. You sir, must explain in detail how the first life originated. I am not going to give you a pass on this. If you cannot explain how life originated, NO, more thanthat, you must prove how the first life began, or admit to everyone on this site that you cannot. What you believe is based on nothing but blind faith. Ithas nothing to do with real science. Life does not come from nonlife. Life coming frompreexisting life is the only fact that is verified. Observable science verifies my assertion time and timeand time again.
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