The Meaning Of The Trinity

Interesting that you would quote a man that converted to atheism late in life. Why is anything he has to say relevant?ABE meant to type Judaism. I want to keep the original in to maintain the context of replies.

Interesting that you have trouble differentiating between fact and fiction ..."In 1979, Anfinsen converted to Orthodox Judaism, a commitment he retained for the rest of his life"
Nobel Laureate Christian B. Anfinsen on the Existence of GOD - posted by Administrator at 2012 Community

Oops I misstated meant to type judaism. He converted to judaism at 63

My amended comment still stands.

Proof positive that atheists are worse than just shallow .... they're delusional and stupid.Atheists say other stupid things, like"There is no evidence that God exists"
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"There is no evidence that miracles are real".

Quite correct. About time you came around.

From Wikipedia article on Christian B. Anfinsen (my emphasis added):

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In 1979, he married Libby Shulman Ely, with whom he had 4 stepchildren,[5] and converted to Orthodox Judaism. However, Anfinsen wrote in 1987 that "my feelings about religion still very strongly reflect a fifty-year period of orthodox agnosticism." [3][6]

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• "The Christian B. Anfinsen Papers: Biographical Overview". National institute of Health. March 12, 2019.
• "Anfinsen, Christian B. ." Complete Dictionary of Scientific Biography. . Encyclopedia.com.

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• Anfinsen, Christian B. (April 1987). "Autobiographical profile of Christian B. Anfinsen". profiles.nlm.nih.gov. The Christian B. Anfinsen Papers. Box: 41. Folder: 10: Swarthmore College. Legacy ID: KKBBLX; NLM ID: 101584571X184.

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I married Libby Shulman Ely in 1979 and, at the same time, converted to Orthodox Judaism which fitted quite nicely into her backgraoudn and with my interstes in Israel. Although my feelings about religion still very strongly reflect a fifty-year period of orthodox agnosticism, I must say that I do find the history, practice and intensity of Judaism an extremely interesting, philosophical package.

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"Orthodox agnosticism". "... extremely interesting, philosophical package."Zero evidence that he had become a theist. For that matter, his agnosticism would have informed him that no mere mortal is or was ever capable of actually knowing anything about the gods, including HaShem. Since his ties to his new religion were based on its philosophy, then for him "God" would be a philosophical concept, not some "personal God" one would have a personal relationship with *.Theodoric is still correct: Anfinsen would not support your position. So stop putting words into his mouth; we know where your filthy words have been.------------------FOOTNOTE*
In one of five or six books of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy, we learn about computer sex -- actual citation was Excerpts from The Complete Douglas Adams, 'The Lost Chapters of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy':

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Interface - Sex
(The thought of a man to machine interface is repulsive to most devices)

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One cannot help but realize how thoroughly disgusting the thought of an intimate personal relationship to a human (especially to a scum sucking/spewing troll such as yourself) would be to any Supreme Being.PS
Old standard inside Jewish joke:  

Well you're halfway there.Life has no purpose beyond itself. The fact that we exist is purely chance, but because we're conscious beings we are all mostly able to find a sense of purpose and meaning.As I've shown you, belief in an afterlife can be one of them, but it's a minority one even in those that are believers. Family and friendships top the table.
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In that case, why would you say it's "interesting" that I quoted a man who converted to Judaism?

Sorry, but you're not making an sense to me. if "Life itself is meaningless", as you say, then everything you do in life is meaningless.

Well let's have another try.The first thing - and it's a simple fact that I ask you to accept - I'm an atheist. A hard atheist, that's one that not only doesn't believe that there are god(s) but also believes strongly that there are no gods. Different concepts but don't worry if you don't understand the difference, just accept that I'm as far to the the right of the bell curve as it's possible to be as an atheist.I'm also not stupid; I have three degrees in radically different disciples, two at Master's level, one from Cambridge University, England.Ok so far?I'm also very happy. I'm long time married with kids, a good job that I like (in fact it's my own business), plenty of savings, a nice paid for house in a nice neighbourhood and good friends. I live in a modern western democracy with freedom to do pretty much what I like, free health care and education and a corruption free criminal justice system and I'm still healthy. In fact, I won the lottery of life.I have meaning in my life - plenty of meaning, life is good, I enjoy lifeI'm asking you to accept that - atheist, not stupid, happy with meaning in my life - ok, got it?So what isn't making sense to you now? Is it because your priest told you that people can't find meaning without god? If so he's wrong isn't he?

Do you actively resist and disrupt religious functions? Do you shout, rant and rave when religion is publicly mentioned? Do you eat Christian babies?If you answer no to any of these then to be a Truly Hard Atheist™ you still have a way to go.Good post.

Yeh, I did consider adding that my lack of militant atheism doesn't quite put me at the really narrow end of the curve but that seemed a bit picky.

On the contrary, his words make it obvious that he was a theist:"We must admit that there exists an incomprehensible power or force with limitless foresight and knowledge that started the whole universe going in the first place.” (Anfinsen, as cited in Margenau and Varghese, ‘Cosmos, Bios, Theos’, 1997, 139)."I can think of little more to add to my final point having to do with the nature of God and the existence of God. Clearly, an all-powerful, all-knowing entity must exist to explain our existence.” (Anfinsen 1989).But oddly, despite converting to Orthodox Judaism, it seems he remained non-committal viz-a-viz theological specifics. So one might describe him as an agnostic theist.Agnostic theism - Wikipedia

Sadly - and rather disturbingly - your answer to all the above is "Yes".