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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Sounds like Jesus wasted his tolerant philosophy on both you and your church. You and your church are not christian.
You're evil.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Turns out Christians aren't actually Christian.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Paulk, all Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are
Jews. Jews refer to Israelites that are descended from Judah; Jacob's 4th son. The very first time that the word Jew is used in in 2 Kings16:6. Verses 5-6 clearly states that Syria and Israel united in a war against the Jews. After the death of Solomon the northern tribes revoltedagainst Rehoboam. Israel rejected God's Sabbaths. And, they turned toworshipping pagan god's, even building altars to them. The Lord sent the Assyrians against Israel. Assyriaconquered Israel in roughly 722 BC, and deported them from Samaria. The Assyrians deported Israel and replaced them withpeople from Babylon, Cuthah, Ava, Hamath, and Sephardic, as well as a few others. You can read this in 2 Kings 17: 23-24. 2 Kings 17:18 "Therefore the Lord was very angry withIsrael, and removed them out of His sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only. Israel became so wicked that the Tribe of Benjaminreunited with Judah 1Chr. 11:1, 13-14. Also, the priestly tribe of Levi left Israel and joined Judah. The Northern nation of Israel still had 10 tribes. Josephreceived a double share, through his sons Ephraim and Manasseh. See Genesis 48. Not only that, but more than any of theother, they received the name Israel. Now, you or any one else on here can crush me, simplyby showing me in the Bible where Israel ever reunited with the Jews. Or, show me where they came back to Jerusalem. Jeremiah states in 3:6-11 that Judah was moretreacherous than Israel. The main reason being that Judah should have learned from Israel's example. However, God did not cast Israel away forever. He hadand still has plans for her. Isaiah 14:1"For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, andwill yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. Amos 9:9 "For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the houseof Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright by J.H.Allen. The book has all the references listed. There is no waythat I can reference it all. But this book has certainly convinced me. As has God.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
Quick ... tell Jesus!!
I'm an atheist, but I'm ten times the Christian you are.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling666 writes:
"Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1Cor 6) Sounds like Jesus wasted his tolerant philosophy on both you and your church. You and your church are not christian. "We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law, with the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for the lawless and unruly, the godless and sinful, the unholy and profane, those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, the unchaste, homosexuals, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is opposed to sound teaching" (1Tim 1) "For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error." (Romans 1:26-27)
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling666 writes:
"Woe to those who call evil good You're eviland good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:20) “Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account." (Matt 5:11)
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling666 writes:
Quick ... tell Jesus!!
Sounds like Jesus wasted his tolerant philosophy on both you and your church. You and your church are not christian.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Quick ... tell Jesus!! Can't. Despite your stories he's still dead. Been dead some 2000+- years.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
So, you have no proof for any of the things I listed - all you try to argue was that the Assyrian deportations were of the entire population. And you can’t even prove that. By your own admission just believe what this “J H Allen” wrote, even though it is nonsense.
(2 Chronicles 30 shows Israelites still living in Israel after the deportations.)
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Dredge writes:
That's neither possible nor necessary. Your guy made it very clear what is needed to be a Christian. Quick ... tell Jesus!! “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: Just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.” (John 13:34, ESV). There are no exceptions that allow you to hate homosexuals or any other kind of person in that commandment Edited by Tangle, . Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Quick ... tell Jesus!!
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dredge, God has a sign that is displayed by those who
love Him. Deuteronomy 6:1-8 verse 1 & 2 God commands us tokeep His all His Commandments, statutes, and judgements. Verse 8 "And thou shall bind them for a sign (evidence,mark, beacon) upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. Deuteronomy 11:13-18 God state that He will give usgreat blessings if we honor His Commandments. Verse 18 "Therefore shall ye lay up these my words inyour heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. We are to agree with them, and we are to obey them.Our hands are not to work on the Sabbath Exodus 3:13-17 states that the Sabbath is a sign betweenIsrael and God. It is a perpetual Commandment. Even Gentiles who become spiritual Israelites are to keep it. It is fairly easy for the world to see who does and doesn'tobey the 4th Commandment. In Daniel 7, we see that the beast (Roman Empire and theRCC) kill the saints of God. They speak great things about the most High. Speaking great things about the most High is blasphemy. Also, both beasts think to change times and Laws. Both Rome and the RCC killed those Christian who keptfaithful to God's Sabbaths. Rome worshipped the Emperor as a God. Likewise thepopes were worshipped as being God's direct representative on earth. People bowed to both of them. Sunday (the day of the sun) is their mark. They haveadmitted this hundreds of time. It is their "mark of authority." Deceived people wear thismark as a badge of servitude. Many Christians who remained faithful to God'sCommandments, especially the 4th were forced to go underground or to recant. So-called holy men in robes had Christian who would notdeny their faith, and who would not accept the mark (Sunday) tortured and killed. Many were thrown to the lions, had limbs chopped off orworse. Some were tightly bound and one of their leg placed ona fire until they either recanted or died. Still others were impaled on stakes and set on fire inorder to provide light at extravagant parties. These action were performed by both Rome and the RCC. Rev. 13 states that this mark will soon be forced oneveryone. This time the false prophet will perform great miraclesthat will cause all to worship both him and the beast (the leader of the 10 kings). God can prevent anyone from being deceived if they willtruly seek Him with all their heart. However, many of His followers will be put to death.These are those who have the strongest faith. It will take someone of immense faith not to fold. Those who are put to death will be a great testimony forGod. The dignified manner in which they accept death will convince others that they were right. In Daniel 7, this end-time beast power is prophesied torule for 3 and a half years. In Rev. 13 the time given is 42 months. They are one andthe same. One should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Dredge writes: Quick ... tell Jesus!! Jesus is commanding YOU to love others. No exceptions for race, religion, gender or proclivities. Even your enemy. Real Christians know this.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Since you're such an expert on Christianity, please explain the following verse:
"Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1Cor 6)
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I quoted Jesus's actual words from your book. He commands you to love others, even your enemies.
When he asks you why you thought it ok to hate some groups are you going to show him the small print, your hoped for loopholes? I think he'll show you the other door and introduce you to the other anonymous frauds that sneaked their way into your corrupted little book. Christian my arse.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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