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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tanzypteryx, you cannot dispose of the evidence. You
can wish it away with all your might, but if you stick to your misguided theory of evolution then you must explain how they fit in. Good luck.
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZ, everybody knows of Moby Dick.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9 |
They are fiction. Your imaginary hallucinations are not evidence.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dredge, Jesus allowed those who understood who He
was to worship Him. While in His human body He did not demand worship. This was not the reason that He came to earth. Jesus forgave sin, which is blasphemy for anyone otherthan a member of the God family to do. There is coming a time when every knee will bow downto Him. There will be no exceptions. Satan did everything in his power to get Jesus to sin.But, he finally realized that it wasn't going to happen. Satan knew the scriptures. He clearly understood thatJesus was to live a sinless life and then He was to be put to death for our sins. This presented him with a paradox of monumentalproportions. He would cause Christ to be sentenced to death, which would be exactly what was required of Him. However, Satan, with His enormous influence would seethat the method of execution was crucifixion. Crucifixion was exceedingly painful and drawn out. Thecondemned would be scourged by experts. Lictors were adept at bringing the condemned to the point of death before stopping. Before flogging the condemned would be stripped of allclothing and his hands were tied to an upright post. Lictors made use of a short whip of braided leather withthongs of various lengths. Attached to the ends of each thong were objects such assmall iron balls; sharp pieces of bones; and, other objects used to bruise and tear flesh. He was missing flesh from His back; buttocks; legs; and, ribs. But, before the flogging the Pharisees had hit him somany times in the face that it was marred beyond human likeness. Jesus was like other men in that He did not want to gothrough this. He prayed to His Father asking if this cup could pass from Him. The realization of what He was about to endure causedHim to sweat great drops mingled with blood (Hematohidrosis). Jesus prayed constantly to His Father, seeking Hisstrength. Satan's final ploy was to get Jesus to back out of Hisplans. And, Jesus did ask His Father if there was another way. Satan stirred the High preists and everyone else againstJesus. They mocked Him; they ridiculed Him; and, they spat on Him. I admire Jesus with all my heart. He paid a high price toredeem us. And, it was the ultimate act of love.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
"there is salvation in no one else" (Acts 4:12)
In this verse, Peter is referring to Jesus Christ. So according to you, this verse means Jesus can save us ... but God can't!! The verse makes sense only if Jesus is God. Only God saves.
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dredge, Jesus is the member of the God family who
gave His life as a ransom for us. It was not the Father. The penalty for sin is death. Jesus paid this price. Therefore, there is no other name that can save us. It isimpossible to have a relationship with the Father without going through the Son. The two have always existed. Both of them are God. Theymake up the family of God, which one day can number into the billions. The Father is the greater of the two, and He is theundisputed leader. But, without Jesus's death to pay for our sins we wouldremain dead for all eternity. This verse (Acts 4:12) is in no way confusing, nor is itcontradictory.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Attached to the ends of each thong were objects such as small iron balls; sharp pieces of bones; and, other objects used to bruise and tear flesh. He was missing flesh from His back; buttocks; legs; and, ribs. Mel Gibson did an epic porn of this scene. Really depicted the evil violence your god was into.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
The God of the Bible is no excuse for not believing in God. The existence of the natural world demands the existence of a supernatural Creator.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
The existence of the natural world demands the existence of a supernatural Creator. No, it does not. That is one of the demented parts of your fantasy. The god you portray in your bible is more than adequate reason to reject the concept of all gods.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling666 writes:
Your reasoning here is of a very poor quality and devoid of merit. Fail.
The god you portray in your bible is more than adequate reason to reject the concept of all gods.
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZ, "The Passion of the Christ" did not go nearly enough
to portray the horrors that Jesus endured. And you got it right, He is my God.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
candle2 writes: You are the only one whom I know among Christians I know to speak of a God family vs simply Father,Son,Holy Spirit. Jesus forgave sin, which is blasphemy for anyone otherthan a member of the God family to do. Dredge is more familiar: Dredge writes:
I agree. In my belief, Jesus is Gods character. His human essence. There is no "two" of them.
The verse(Acts 4:12) makes sense only if Jesus is God. Only God saves. candle2 writes: Based on what you earlier stated,
The two have always existed. Both of them are God. Theymake up the family of God, which one day can number into the billions. candle2:I think we disagree here! Of course in the RCC, Priests can forgive sin, so Dredge may agree with you more than I do. The way I see it, In The Beginning was GOD. Jesus was at that exact moment His Son...His character as a human. Through that character, all things were created, including Angels and humans and everything else under the Son (pun intended). As for the angels, none were created initially rebellious or sinful, but the possibility of sin was allowed. Lucifer, One of three Arch Angels(Chief Angels) along with Michael and Gabriel, chose autonomy over obedience. Thus the war in Heaven and Lucifer's expulsion and re-titling to Satan. Do either you or Dredge see that any differently than I do? Edited by Phat, .
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
candle2 writes:
You saying creatures (humans) will become God?
The two have always existed. Both of them are God. Theymake up the family of God, which one day can number into the billions.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
You saying creatures (humans) will become God? Have you forgotten Xenu so easily?Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
AZPaul writes: Dredge writes: Are you saying creatures (humans) will become God? Have you forgotten Xenu so easily? With Christian home schooling, everything is possible.
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