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Author Topic:   Is the universe God?
joz
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Message 1 of 14 (496)
11-30-2001 11:49 AM


God is omnipresent / the universe is by definition omnipresent...
God is omnipotent / the universe by definition contains all the power and is therefore omnipotent...
God is omnicogniscient / the universe gives us the answers if we ask the right questions (Data from experiments) therefore since all knowledge is derived from the universe it is omnicogniscient...
God is omnibenevolent / the universe containing all the good things is omnibenevolent...
Can anyone think of any more "om" words?

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joz
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Message 3 of 14 (512)
12-04-2001 11:15 AM


Good one, but I was trying to show that God is just an anthropomorphic representation of the best things in the universe...........

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joz
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Message 5 of 14 (517)
12-05-2001 8:07 AM


The best way I have heard it put is that:
Given that there exists evil in the universe either:
a) God could stop it but will not in which case he is not omnibenevolent...
b) God would stop it if he could but he cant in which case he is not omnipotent...
in either case God lacks one of the qualities that those religious fellas attribute him with so therefore their God either does not exist or does not exist as they believe he does.....

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joz
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Message 10 of 14 (955)
12-19-2001 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by TrueCreation
12-18-2001 10:29 PM


First can you read? Redwing was using freewill as an argument against omnipotence, which given your pseudonym I doubt you wish to agree with....
Scondly Mark didnt argue with his line of reasoning he merely pointed out that free will is also possibly in conflict with omnibenevolence
Thirdly I think Mark may just have realised that it was an analogy....

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