Evolution or Creation

ICANT, there is a common repeated theme of several of Jesus's parables where the rich and poor are concerned. That fact, that this theme is stressed over and over should not go unnoticed.Further the treatment of the least of society is touched on not only in Matt 25 but also in Luke 16.In Luke 16 the rich man's claims to external virtue did not compensate for his neglect of the poor man Lazarus. Simple lesson that a child could understand.But apply your methodology here, Jesus is simply referring to some "rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen" that "lived in luxury every day" - he was not referring to a special redeemed child of god such as yourself - these are lesson for others.

And what does flawed eschatology have to do with your responsibilities of those who hunger and applying the golden rule?You are putting up a large smoke screen.BTW I can direct you to many "Born again child of the King" scholars that would disagree strongly with your chain of events. I recommend you post this as a new thread you will find disagreements by others who consider themselves "born again".It is not, as you suggest, merely the confusion of those not born again.

You got that right. That is why everything I have will go to the Church when the last one, My Wife or Myself dies.

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Phil 4:19 (KJS) But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

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John 10:10 (KJS) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

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Paul said God would supply all my needs, according to His riches.
I need a house, I need transportation, I need a truck for the farm, almost forgot need the farm for the house to reside on.Jesus said: "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have (life) more abundantly.BTW there are enough scriptures that apply to me without trying to apply those that apply to other people to me. I have a hard enough time with mine.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I don't suggest it the Bible declares it.

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1Cor 2:14 (KJS) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

It's sad that you think "more abundant life" has anything to do with the size of your bank account.

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Spin Matt. 25 any way you want but it remains that Jesus is judging the nations for their treatment of the Jewish nation as God had promised Abraham.

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Gene 12:3 (KJS) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

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Are you saying then that the rich man went to hell because he would not feed and clothe Lazarus?

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Who other that you said anything about the size of their bank account?

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

You were the one who brought up material goods as a "benefit" of being one of God's children. You have spent the whole thread talking about how God has blessed you materially.The rest of us have been talking about the more abstract benefits of accepting the truth, but you don't seem interested in them.

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God has blessed me materially, He has blessed me physically, He has blessed me with the most wonderful woman in the world, He has blessed me with the most wonderful Church in the world, He has blessed me with some of the most wonderful opportunities in the world.I have been privileged to go overseas on many mission trips. I am not going to tell you how much of the things I have done that you accuse me of not doing because if I did you would say I was bragging.
I won't tell you how many years of those I spent working that I was pastoring small churches that could not afford a pastor.Yes God has been good to me and for me. BTW the bank account is small. So God is going to have to take care of my needs until He calls me home on His retirement plan.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I have no doubt that you have earned (in the earthly sense) all that you have. I am not questioning your right to earthly goods.I'm just wondering about your priorities.As I've already mentioned, the truth about evolution doesn't seem to interest you. Making false accusations against scientists doesn't seem to bother you.You have talked about material goods and about your reward in the afterlife. I'm not seeing that you value integrity in this life very highly.

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Are you suggesting that God will reward eternal life and deal out eternal punishment based on nationality? Abraham is not mentioned anywhere and the "least of these" is not a code word for the Jewish nation.The division is based on the acts of kindness and mercy done by people to the disadvantaged. Further, Jesus identifies such kindness with kindness towards himself. A simple message that I believe your are trying to make more complex for obvious reasons. That is a personal message not one to nations. There are most likely parallel meanings (as is the case with Matt 25). However the central issue of social injustice is in escapable - that those with plenty who ignore those with needs will be punished.This is inline with Christ's character that repeatedly spoke of not only detachment of possessions and relationships but even your own life - he did not speak of comfort and material blessing.

Too bad then. Until you tell me, you don't know what I would say.You can only nurture your 'chosen belief' about what what I would say. That is a conjecture you have chosen not to test against reality. I choose nothing of the kind.Belief is an automatic, honest response that arises in me when something strikes me as credible. It is a response far less likely to arise in me, I notice, when a proposition seems incredible or insufficiently demonstrated.Can't help it. Just happens that way. It's how belief works.Your beliefs work the same way. Your real beliefs, I mean.One cannot choose to believe. One is convinced or one isn't. Beliefs are those things you feel you know, really know, even when you are alone.One can choose alignments, though. One can choose manifestos and creeds, which can then be regurgitated when one wants to make a ritual declaration of loyalty... No. But God would.He says to tell you that if you make three more testimonies like the one above, he'll throw in a free GPS with that 2007 Nissan pickup.Do you choose to believe God, or not?____Edited by Archer Opterix, : html.Edited by Archer Opterix, : ongoing quest for literary perfection.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Are you aware that biological evolution only works on living things?If you are not it would explain you comment and would indicate further research on your part is required.If you are aware of this then you position is idiotic.

Okay, I'm stumped. What am I supposed to be refuting here?

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BTW the bank account is small.

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Excuse me?You own a farm with a home on it, another waterfront home, and two brand new expensive automobiles.I am going to assume that these are not recent purchases and are either fully or largely paid off.If I am not mistaken those assets, should you liquefy them, would amount to the upper six figures at the lowest, and several million at best, depending upon property values where they are.You are rich, my friend, and your assets are great.You have far more than you really need. Nobody "needs" two homes, for goodness sake.