Politcally Correct Christ

But if the Bible is going to be an authority, you can't be picking and choosing among these central ideas that are in the Bible. You can't say, as you did say, that the notion that Christ died for our sins is a stupid idea: it's a central idea in the New Testament.If you reject some ideas and retain others, then the Bible is not an authority. It's just a book like any other.What you can try to do is offer some very unplausible interpretations which any unbiased person would see right away is a false grafting of your ideas onto Biblical passages.

Well, no it is not. So there. It is a stupid and silly idea with no logical or reasonable support.AbE: Well, Duh. It is a book, like any other. It is an anthology of anthologies.Edited by jar, : forgot to address the rest of the nonsense.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

It may not have logical or reasonable support, but it's got plenty of Biblical support. Or have you forgotten the last supper? Have much plainer can you get?

Since it is a rite I take part in regularly I most certainly have not forgotten. Have you forgotten that Jesus was very much alive at that meal?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

So? Jesus is talking about the fact he's about to be crucified. It's a blood sacrifice--a popular idea in those days.Do you reject Paul's ideas about the Fall? How can you pick and choose among ideas like this if the Bible is an authority?If the Bible is not an authority, then of course it's just another book and you can reject and choose what you please. But you can't if it's an authoritative book.

shit?abe:
went back and read your original question, this time catching the "exclamation" part. now I see what you're getting."Oh shit we're screwed"my guess--brian's joking with you. if not, he apparently doesn't use that word. eh, who cares.Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

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Got it in one. Well spotted Kuresu More properly: "Oh shit, I'm screwed!"

This would be making a god in ones own image and likeness - just like the Jews did with their golden calf. Nothing new in that either.

well, I did read brian's answers.and it wasn't until you said it was something we each do daily (for the most part) that it registered.Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

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No, not exactly. IMHO he is speaking of His life which was given. It is the teacher speaking to the students. I have covered this in some depth about a brazillion times lately. I simply cannot find any support for Pauls claims in Genesis story about the Garden of Eden.And I have said many times, including this very thread, that the Bible is but a Map. Do you ever bother reading what people post? In Message 242 I already said that the Bible is but an anthology of anthologies.

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You added that ABE after I already read it.If the Bible is not an authority, then I don't understand why you would bother with these off-the-wall interpretations, trying to fit modern ideas into it.Why would you use the Biblical passage, "Love your neighbor as you love yourself," if you are going to interpret this in a way that is obviously not what was intended by the authors of the Bible? Why don't you just call it your own rather commonplace idea? What's your game here?

Like the gospel, the light dawns gradually. But there is a moment where you go "Aha!"Edited by iano, : No reason given.

But I do not think that I interpret it "in a way that is obviously not what was intended by the authors of the Bible".

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Well, you did. Anybody who reads the passage with an open mind will see that the passage does not mean, "We have to learn to love ourselves, and then we can love others." And anybody who has been conscious for 20 years or so will instantly recognize where your idea came from--it's an idea from our modern society, totally foreign to the authors of the Bible.And why are you offering these screwball interpretations of Genesis, when it is OBVIOUS to anyone who reads it that God is punishing Adam and Eve for disobeying his command?What I can't figure out is what your agenda is. If the Bible isn't authoritative, why would you care if your modern ideas are in it or not? Are you trying to prove you're a Christian?Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

Not at all. A person holds a gun to your head. He says to you "see Big Ben? If you jump from ground level to the top of Big Ben unaided by any device I won't kill you" In saying this to you he will (assuming a normal reaction on your part) evoke a certain response in you. Kuresu managed to get it. That is the purpose: to evoke that response. You can think what you like about it but purpose it most certainly has. And that's it. "Shit!" No sizzling under the fire for Iano? I am honoured. I figured I'd get the same treatment as Jar. How do you interpret "the law is a schoolteacher to lead you to Christ" then? Cry "shit!" sometime and look at your options then. If convinced (as that post posited) then you will have no other option. God is the only one to turn to. He, unlike us, is not proud. He doesn't mind being PaddyLast so long as you come to him. No, but it heartens him immensely to hear people cry "Shit!" Their end is nigh (in the best sense of the word 'end' imaginable) Write in haste, repent at leisure Correct. Or more technically; I am going to heaven because I am in Christ (as opposed to remaining as I was born - in Adam) See above - no being a good person involved. In Christ...alone. I did nothing to earn or deserve being put there. You could be too as could anyone. It would be a condition were it possible for me to do anything to be made a Christian or do anything to result my being put into Christ. Thing is Briano, I didn't make me a Christian - He did.There is a condition thus: God has to make you a Christian.Edited by iano, : No reason given.Edited by iano, : No reason given.