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Author Topic:   Will The Real God Please Stand Up?
Omnivorous
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Message 16 of 364 (379010)
01-22-2007 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
01-22-2007 10:06 AM


Will the rest of the world please wrath up?
I just want to say that there are an awful lot of Asian, American, African and Australian Gods who are very unhappy with your OP.
And don't apologize: by and large, they just don't care much about repentance.

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Message 19 of 364 (379022)
01-22-2007 5:43 PM
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01-22-2007 5:26 PM


Re: Will the rest of the world please wrath up?
In my experience, there's nothing better than offering a god the flesh of an unbeliever to test bonafides.
You could be the living acid test, Ringo.
I'd start with the Australians. They seem an easy-going lot.

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Message 21 of 364 (379028)
01-22-2007 5:58 PM
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01-22-2007 5:53 PM


Re: Will the rest of the world please wrath up?
Ringo writes:
I was thinking of shooting them one at a time to test their immortality. The omnipotent and/or fairlipotent might eat me in self-defense.
Don't worry--like the FPPE, they wouldn't eat you 'cause you're so tough!
*Omni slips into best American diplomacy mode*
So how about you and them fight?

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Message 25 of 364 (379039)
01-22-2007 6:29 PM
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01-22-2007 6:20 PM


Re: Will the rest of the world please wrath up?
Um, that's the Flying Purple People Eater, m'lady.
It matters, because the Purple Spaghetti Flying Monster transubstantiates infinitely, commanding "EAT ME!" with the divine aplomb of A Perfect Olive. The FPPE does not.
I can't believe you didn't know that.
You gotta get your facts straight if you're gonna test the Gods.

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Message 36 of 364 (379214)
01-23-2007 12:33 PM
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01-23-2007 5:50 AM


Re: deity on video
The eight Taras enter the room.
Sophia pales.
Jesus leaps to his feet.

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Message 69 of 364 (379470)
01-24-2007 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Doddy
01-24-2007 3:30 AM


Best of All Possible Worlds with Bacchus
Doddy writes:
If perfection can only produce perfection, and God created everything, thus everything must then be perfect. And, if people were created perfect, then they would stay perfect unless something imperfect influenced them. But there can't be anything imperfect because God created everything, and by your logic, must make things perfect. Thus, all humans are perfect, AND everything they produce is perfect. Thus, this paragraph is perfect.
Certainly Leibniz thought so, in his attempt to solve the problem of evil. As summarized by Wikipedia:
quote:
If God is good and omnipotent, this world must be good, and in fact, this world is the best of all possible worlds. Imagine that all the world is made of good and evil. The best possible world would have the most good and the least evil. Courage is better than no courage. Yet without evil to challenge us there can be no courage. Since evil brings out the best aspects of mankind evil is regarded as necessary. So in creating this world God made some evil to make the best of all possible worlds.
Of course, I prefer Kris Kristofferson's analysis:
quote:
I was runnin thru the summer rain, tryn to catch that evenin train
And kill the old familiar pain weavin thru my tangled brain
When I tipped my bottle back and smacked into a cop I didnt see
That police man said, mister cool, if you aint drunk, then youre a
Fool.
I said, if thats against the law, then tell me why I never saw
A man locked in that jail of yours who wasnt neither black or poor as
Me?
Well, that was when someone turned out the lights
And I wound up in jail to spend the night
And dream of all the wine and lonely girls
In this best of all possible worlds.
Well, I woke up next mornin feelin like my head was gone
And like my thick old tongue was lickin something sick and wrong
And I told that man Id sell my soul for something wet and cold as that
Old cell.
That kindly jailer grinned at me, all eaten up with sympathy
Then poured himself another beer and came and whispered in my ear,
If booze was just a dime a bottle boy, you couldnt even buy the smell
I said, I knew there was something I liked about this town.
But it takes more than that to bring me down, down, down.
cause theres still a lot of wine and lonely girls
In this best of all possible worlds
Well, they finally came and told me they was a gonna set me free
And Id be leavin town if I knew what was good for me
I said, its nice to learn that evrybodys so concerned about my
Health.
(they were obsessed with it)
I said, I wont be leavin no more quicker than I can
cause Ive enjoyed about as much of this as I can stand
And I dont need this town of yours more than I never needed nothin
Else.
cause theres still alot of drinks that I aint drunk
And lots of pretty thoughts that I aint thunk
And lord theres still so many lonely girls
In this best of all possible worlds.
Dr. Pangloss could have helped him with those troublesome symptoms.
In conclusion, as my cranky old mentor loved to say about textual proofs, OED.
Bacchus belongs at this table.

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Omnivorous
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Message 74 of 364 (379530)
01-24-2007 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by kuresu
01-24-2007 2:21 PM


Hi, kuresu.
From Wikipedia:
quote:
Q.E.D. is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum" (literally, "which was to be demonstrated"). In simple terms, the use of this Latin phrase is to indicate that something has been definitively proven.
In modern popular usage QED has a certain "I told you so" or "nyah nyah" quality to it, but formally merely indicates an assertion of a definitive proof. QED probably is most appropriately used at the end of mathematical proofs where the authority of the proof is likely to be transparent and self-contained.
OED, on the other hand, is the tome-ish Oxford English Dictionary, considered the definitive dictionary of the English language, especially as relating to etymology (the history of a linguistic form).
So when my old English prof finished his remarks with "OED" he was quibbling (punning) with both the notion of a definitional proof from textual authority (OED) and the claim of a demonstrated definitive logical proof (QED). By saying OED, he was saying, "I'm right because I looked it up"; by quibbling with QED, he was slyly subverting the notion of indisputable proof.
He was, in fact, skeptical of both on the grounds of appeals to authority.
Dry, I suppose, but tasty, like a good martini.
Edited by Omnivorous, : typo

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Message 76 of 364 (379558)
01-24-2007 4:36 PM
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01-24-2007 4:11 PM


My pleasure--the explanation brought back warm memories of an aging scholarly scamp who called Shakespeare "Big Bill" and Dylan "Big Bob."
He would have loved this place.

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