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Gzus
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Message 1 of 11 (27658)
12-22-2002 4:33 PM


Would the following description of the mind help or confuse?
for every second that we live, we exist and cease to exist an infinite number of times. for every infinitely small increment in time, we are a set of stimuli and an impulse. we do not 'know' that we have existed nor that we will exist, we can only be sure of the present. We are ever changing and therefore, the person that i was one second ago is dead, ceased to exist, life exists only in the present, whatever that is. Having established that, how can we claim consciousness?, it is impossible for us to experience the past or the future, and the reasoning of our conscious minds is time dependent.
What makes us different from a frame in a movie clip, each time being replaced by a new and equally doomed picture. The movie looks interesting but the individual clips are rather bland.

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Gzus
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Message 4 of 11 (27779)
12-24-2002 11:40 AM


they are not blocks, simply infinitely small increment. this is however a simplification. time itself is not a block. the fact is, we are constantly changing, you are different from the person that existed 10 seconds ago and you exist only for an infinitely small period before passing out of existence. In this sense, 'you' do not experience anything since 'you' exist only at one infinitely small point in time. it may seem as if you are moving forward in time, experiencing it, but all you really are is a collection of memories and an impulse, a frozen picture.

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Gzus
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Message 7 of 11 (27836)
12-25-2002 1:59 PM


Well, all I can say guys is, I’m baffled, I’m not 100% sure about this question myself but what I do know is that the Gzus that existed one second ago was a different Gzus from the one that exists now, he has passed on to non-existence, hence he is ‘dead’ in a manner of speaking,
So, am I (or various versions of I) dying all the time?
Strange and puzzling if you get my point
But I do accept all your points about time, what is it? And is this statement somehow flawed because of my misinterpretation?
Gzus

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Gzus
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Message 9 of 11 (27854)
12-25-2002 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by forgiven
12-25-2002 3:00 PM


quote:
Originally posted by forgiven:
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aren't you, after all, dogmatic about your nihilism?

Well, I try not to be! What can I say, my mother indoctrinated me with Christianity when I was small, probably why I’m a rebel.
This topic is merely a passing thought of mine, to be honest, I’m really not sure about the answers, but as for my nihilistic non-belief, it relies on only one dogmatic argument, that logic is not itself flawed

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