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Author Topic:   John could I talk to you?
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Message 35 of 92 (26937)
12-17-2002 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by John
12-16-2002 11:40 PM

I will chime in as someone with an IQ measured at the 99.9 percentile, and plenty of book-learning (neither of which have helped me much as a Christian, which is the most difficult, although fulfilling, relationship I have ever undertaken).
I take Forgiven to mean that the more confidence you have in yourself and your own discernment, the more likely you are to overestimate your own abilities and your own discernment. Which leads to a particular brand of academic with a healthy portion of self-confidence (some would say hubris or pride), standing on his/her soapbox asserting that God does not exist. Even while the child reading Proverbs comes across the well-known passage "The fool says in his heart, 'there is no God.'"
Jesus notes that " must become as one of these [little children] to enter the Kingdom of God." In other words, I must swallow this misplaced self-confidence and pride and agree that I do not know everything ... and at the same time acknowledge that there is one who does.

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Message 45 of 92 (27067)
12-17-2002 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by nator
12-17-2002 10:07 AM

Fools come in all shapes, sizes, and IQs. Anybody who 1) thinks they know everything 2) refuses to listen to others and discuss things and 3) thinks much more of ones own capabilities and importance than they ought is a fool. That makes everybody a little foolish. But what I think is that big fools come along just as frequently among geniuses as among idiots.
Arrogance is another matter for another day.

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Message 46 of 92 (27070)
12-17-2002 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by David unfamous
12-17-2002 10:53 AM

Well, I have personal experience with him. I believe I have evidence in my life of a person who has come along side me and helped me, transformed me. Someone I communicate with and have a relationship with. What I accept is that I can't prove this to you scientifically. All I have is the Bible and my own word to back me up.

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Message 56 of 92 (27158)
12-18-2002 6:11 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by funkmasterfreaky
12-18-2002 5:38 AM

That's the key, funkmaster. Thanks for the realignment.

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