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Primordial Egg
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Message 27 of 92 (26769)
12-16-2002 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by funkmasterfreaky
12-16-2002 3:39 AM


I think the IQ scale was defined (1950s?) s.t. the average would be 100. But then, I agree with John and Joz as regards their validity, as the tests are not culturally independent (at least not the ones I've seen), and no-one quite knows what exactly its supposed to measure.
PE
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Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense - Carl Sagan

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Primordial Egg
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Message 58 of 92 (27164)
12-18-2002 6:52 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Mammuthus
12-18-2002 3:33 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Mammuthus:
This is perhaps a testable hypothesis and there may actually be data on these characterstics. Though I doubt there would be a behavioral study comparing self impressions between geniuses and idiots, I could imagine a study of say high IQ versus average IQ people for a host of different social characteristics...anybody know if this has been done academically?
This site summarises several studies done on the correlation between education and religiousity. I haven't checked the refs but its quite an interesting read nonetheless.
It concludes:
The consensus here is clear: more intelligent people tend not to believe in religion. And this observation is given added force when you consider that the above studies span a broad range of time, subjects and methodologies, and yet arrive at the same conclusion.
Granted that education does not necessarily mean high IQ, but I'm willing to bet money / limbs there's a correlation.
PE
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Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense - Carl Sagan

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Primordial Egg
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Message 66 of 92 (27181)
12-18-2002 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Delshad
12-18-2002 8:14 AM


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And finally, what where your intentions by that post.
I dont really believe that your motive would be to set yet another barrier between peoples values and preferences, or?
I certainly hope not.
No I don't think that was my motive, although I'm not quite sure what you mean about me setting barriers. It was an interesting site I found which seemed to back earlier suggestions on this thread that high IQ people tended to lack faith. I was actually looking for a study done in the US which looked at religious affiliation by background and education level (similar to the Gallup Millennial survey) which I seem to remember seeing some time ago, but can't find now.
Mind you, its curious that you seem opposed to the idea while forgiven, who is also religious, seemed to advocate it in the first place. Personally, "educated people are less likely to be religious" doesn't sound nearly as self-evident as "less educated people are more likely to be religious" to me, even though its logically equivalent. But I wouldn't use that as evidence to mean it was right not to believe in religion, anymore than I would say that people should all become Catholic as thats the world no 1 religion. No, there are plenty of other good reasons not to believe in religion
PE
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