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Message 199 of 331 (701312)
06-16-2013 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by Dr Adequate
06-15-2013 5:13 PM


Re: Looking for a discussion
Anyone that uses Richard Milton as an authority on anything can be justifiable ignored.
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Milton's claims have been criticised as pseudoscience by philosophy professor Robert Carroll.[7] Milton appeared on The Mysterious Origins of Man, a television special arguing that mankind has lived on the Earth for tens of millions of years, and that mainstream scientists have suppressed supporting evidence.[8]
Milton's claims on the age of mankind have also been criticised for scientific inaccuracy.[9] Milton's "Best of Enemies" [Page 167] quotes David Irving as a source on Hitler, despite the fact that Irving was jailed for Holocaust denial, and is no longer generally regarded as a reliable source by Holocaust scholars.
Source

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 255 of 331 (900952)
11-02-2022 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by Phat
11-01-2022 7:21 PM


Re: Did God Become An Ant In Order To Understand Humanity?
God had to become an ant to understand ants.
I thought the dude was omniscient. So he is not omniscient? Do you not understand your religion?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 257 of 331 (900955)
11-02-2022 7:50 PM
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11-02-2022 7:42 PM


Re: Did God Become An Ant In Order To Understand Humanity?
I agree with the idea that christianity started out as a mystery religion. The early writings are infused with ideas and rituals that match other mystery religions of the time. I wonder when all references to the sacred prostitutes was expunged.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 261 of 331 (901020)
11-03-2022 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 259 by Phat
11-03-2022 3:59 PM


Re: Did God Become An Ant In Order To Understand Humanity?
WTF does this have to do with anything? Do you know what a mystery religion is?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 294 of 331 (902208)
11-19-2022 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 293 by Phat
11-19-2022 5:37 AM


Re: Two Sides To Every Argument
There is one side to Barker's story. His. Everything else is just people trying to prop up and defend their own beliefs.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 301 of 331 (902220)
11-19-2022 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by ringo
11-19-2022 12:11 PM


Re: Two Sides To Every Argument
Responded to wrong person. Fix on way

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 302 of 331 (902221)
11-19-2022 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 297 by Phat
11-19-2022 12:08 PM


If you say so
You are a christian in name not in action. That's ok. So is the Orange Shitgibbon, mikey pence, mags taylor green, most of the GQP and all the other MAGAt's.

Fine company I am sure.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 307 of 331 (902230)
11-19-2022 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 304 by Phat
11-19-2022 3:20 PM


Re: If you say so
But the conservatives do not follow these principles. Show me one.
John Kenneth Galbraith - Wikipedia

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 309 of 331 (902249)
11-20-2022 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Phat
11-20-2022 9:28 AM


Re: Countering Galbraiths extreme Liberalism...
The thing about uncle miltie(do you know who he is?) is that many of his ideas and theories have shown to be bullshit and he was a failure as an economist and a policymaker.
First of all the quote I presented was about conservatives. Friedman was not a conservative, he was a libertarian.
Milton Friedman's "Shareholder" Theory Was Wrong - The Atlantic
Milton Friedman: a study in failure | Richard Adams | The Guardian
If he was a truly honest person he would looked at the western socialist countries for his comment instead of the authoritarian countries that he admired. Look into his support of Pinochet in Chile, his admiration of the chinese governement.
Your turn. Criticize Galbraith.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 313 of 331 (902276)
11-21-2022 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 310 by Phat
11-21-2022 2:26 AM


Re: If you say so
Did you research uncle miltie? Do you support his "screw the little people" theory of economics?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 326 of 331 (902553)
11-25-2022 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 324 by Phat
11-25-2022 1:44 AM


Re: If you say so
So your answer is no. There are no liberals proposing such a thing and your are just making this up.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 329 of 331 (902898)
11-28-2022 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 328 by Phat
11-28-2022 12:13 PM


Re: If you say so
Read the news. There is a thing called Google. Search GOP social security.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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