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AZPaul3
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Message 70 of 531 (514551)
07-08-2009 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Stile
07-08-2009 2:42 PM


Re: Honour thy parents... what the hell??
Stile,
Remember that The Commandments are the product of a desert dwelling tribe. The stories from the bible not withstanding, the purpose of the commandments was the protection and wellbeing of the tribe.
To honor mom and dad was to ‘learn’ from them the hard lessons of desert living they had learned from their parents and grand-parents so that you stayed alive. A disobedient child in such a harsh ancient environment was one that ate the wrong foods (pork and others — why do you think they called them unclean?), did not learn to tend the flock costing the family not only their sustenance but their survival, and the list goes on.
On the flip side, to honor mom and dad was to keep them safe and tended in their old age, which was the only retirement plan available in them days. In this way their knowledge was kept available to the benefit of the tribe until their death which was certainly delayed from the alternatives of abandonment in the desert.
The first four commandments were meant to entrench the power of the priests to enforce the others, but the remaining 6 were the most basic and all necessary to keep the tribe alive and functioning.
In them days it was easier and more productive to wrap social and personal requirements for the survival of the tribe (society) in the mantel of religious enforcement.
Meatless Friday is a good Christian example. Remember George Carlin: "There are still people doing time in purgatory on a meat rap."

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Message 81 of 531 (514598)
07-09-2009 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by onifre
07-08-2009 10:20 PM


Re: origin
It's possible that a form of these types of commandments were normal in all cultures.
Indeed they were, and they had the utility of keeping the various tribes ongoing vital entities.
Now I'm hearing that over the millennia lots of professed believers are abusing these commandments for their own personal satisfaction far in excess of their originally intended purpose.
My response: What does one expect from a 3+ millennia old entrenched power structure?
To me the whole edifice of institutionalized religious superstition has outlived its usefulness. But way back then it did perform a vital function.
I agree with both you and Stile. Just a little historical perspective on the original intent.

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