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NosyNed
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Message 171 of 305 (159088)
11-13-2004 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by riVeRraT
11-12-2004 7:38 AM


Choice of hair
Just noticed your sig, kind of silly, some people have no choice if they are bald
That's me all right. However, I have exactly the same non-choice as far as my religious beliefs.

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NosyNed
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Message 174 of 305 (159194)
11-13-2004 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by riVeRraT
11-13-2004 8:02 PM


Choice of religious beliefs
The nature of my thinking processes are such that I have no choice. I arrive where I am because of what is put in front of me.
If I am forced at gunpoint into a car of a terrorist I might say afterward "I had no choice." It seems you would be arguing I did.
I am forced by external circumstances and my nature to come to the conclusions I have. I would like to believe. Others have said the same thing. It is not possible for me.
It is also, as you say, a choice made on the evidence but that evidence allows me no other path so I don't see it as a choice.
I perhaps, am more making a choice to be bald ("ish" if you please ) since I could pay to do something about that.

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Message 176 of 305 (159212)
11-13-2004 8:44 PM
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11-13-2004 8:35 PM


Re: Choice of religious beliefs
Just as I certainly don't condemn religious beliefs.

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NosyNed
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Message 227 of 305 (160521)
11-17-2004 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by mike the wiz
11-17-2004 11:46 AM


Babies in Sodom
God didn't say there were any babies in Sodom. Please quote were he said there were children in Sodom, or at Noah's flood, and their names, thanks.
Mike, do you really mean that seriously? I really, really hope you don't. You're actually one of our better examples of creationists (or once a creationist). If you mean the above seriously then I have to tell you that the only result can be one of derision. It is laughable, silly, ridiculous, dumb and not the best of arguements.
If you think otherwise I have to give up on you altogether. That sort of thing just makes the Dawkinists totally convinced that believers are mentally ill.
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NosyNed
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Message 230 of 305 (160526)
11-17-2004 12:11 PM
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11-17-2004 12:03 PM


Re: Babies in Sodom
As for Dawkins, he's not the most reasonable person to listen to.
I agree since I use the term "Dawkinist" to mean one who is rabidly anti religious. (e.g., Contra). At least as far as religious matters go. But that statement about babies makes the case that the Dawkinists want to make. That is that the religious are incompetant and unable to think clearly.
I am thunderstruck that you would try to make such an obviously stupid argument. You're saying that an entire city had no babies. More than that you're saying that at the time of the flood there were no babies. You simply have to be kidding.
I find it hard to state just how utterly ridiculous that idea looks. I am, for a change, at a loss for words.
'Sides, while I'm no Biblical scholar, what does Abraham have to do with it?
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