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Author Topic:   Choosing to believe
Modulous
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Message 59 of 90 (716704)
01-20-2014 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Raphael
01-20-2014 12:41 PM


Re: Choosing To Believe
Theists use the phrase "choose to believe" because, by definition, that is what belief is.
So you chose to believe that fire is hot?

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Modulous
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Message 61 of 90 (716711)
01-20-2014 3:08 PM
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01-20-2014 2:35 PM


Re: Choosing To Believe
perhaps i felt heat from it, though i never actually touched it. so...yes.
Sounds like you inferred it was hot because it was giving off heat. Doesn't sounds like you had much of a choice either. Could you have chosen to believe it was cold?

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Message 63 of 90 (716718)
01-20-2014 3:40 PM
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01-20-2014 3:32 PM


Re: Choosing To Believe
what if I had never actually felt heat from the fire but had seen pictures of fire and heard stories that it was hot?
Do the stories and pictures cause you to believe?

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Message 65 of 90 (716732)
01-20-2014 5:32 PM
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01-20-2014 4:47 PM


Re: Choosing To Believe
It depends on who is telling me the stories. I tend to trust stories from people whom I trust.
Could you choose to believe fire was hot (or cold) on the word of a known pathological liar?
I don't mean 'could you choose to trust such a person' but would you actually hold the belief 'fire is cold' by choice?
Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

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