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Choosing to believe

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Modulous
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Message 59 of 90 (716704)
01-20-2014 1:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 57 by Raphael
01-20-2014 12:41 PM

Re: Choosing To Believe
Theists use the phrase "choose to believe" because, by definition, that is what belief is.
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So you chose to believe that fire is hot?
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Modulous
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Message 61 of 90 (716711)
01-20-2014 3:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Phat
01-20-2014 2:35 PM

Re: Choosing To Believe
perhaps i felt heat from it, though i never actually touched it. so...yes.
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Sounds like you inferred it was hot because it was giving off heat. Doesn't sounds like you had much of a choice either. Could you have chosen to believe it was cold?
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Message 63 of 90 (716718)
01-20-2014 3:40 PM 		Reply to: Message 62 by Phat
01-20-2014 3:32 PM

Re: Choosing To Believe
what if I had never actually felt heat from the fire but had seen pictures of fire and heard stories that it was hot?
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Do the stories and pictures cause you to believe?
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Modulous
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Message 65 of 90 (716732)
01-20-2014 5:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 64 by Phat
01-20-2014 4:47 PM

Re: Choosing To Believe
It depends on who is telling me the stories. I tend to trust stories from people whom I trust.
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Could you choose to believe fire was hot (or cold) on the word of a known pathological liar?
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I don't mean 'could you choose to trust such a person' but would you actually hold the belief 'fire is cold' by choice?
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