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Brian
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Message 24 of 417 (25808)
12-07-2002 5:19 AM


I don't pretend to know all about God. I do know that I have seen and felt his hand at work in and around my life. I have had times where I become drunk on the Holy Spirit. That probably sounds ridiculous to you guys but it sure solidifies my relationship to God. As a former addict of all sorts the high that my God can provide is untouchable by any drug or cocktail of drugs I could dream up.
funky,
This sort of backs up my theory that it takes a certain kind of person to believe in God, all you have done is substituted one addiction with another, it is part of your nature to be addicted to something.
Also, just like the drug addict, you will do anything and say anything to get your 'god-kick'
Best Wishes
brian.
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Brian
Member (Idle past 5077 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 99 of 417 (26197)
12-10-2002 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by funkmasterfreaky
12-07-2002 8:59 PM


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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
First thing here John.
quote:
Sorry, the easy way out is 'a book told me so'
Where do you get your information and knowledge?
Now Brian
quote:
funky,
This sort of backs up my theory that it takes a certain kind of person to believe in God, all you have done is substituted one addiction with another, it is part of your nature to be addicted to something.
Also, just like the drug addict, you will do anything and say anything to get your 'god-kick'
I'm going to ignore the fact that I feel insulted here. It doesn't take a certain kind of person to believe in God. I think the bible is pretty clear that the blood of Jesus was shed for everyone not just for drug addicts who want to trade up.
So you know my nature now do you? Boy you're brilliant must be phsycic or something. That aside yes it USED to be my nature to be addicted to something. This is the incredible thing here! This being drunk on the Spirit I mentioned is not something I go out of my way to attain, it's not a high in the usual sense of the word. It's just something that happens when you allow the Holy Spirit to dwell within you, when you listen to his gentle urges and allow him to make you God's instrument. It's that proximity to God, to be in his graces that leaves your spirit exhilerated and rejuvinated.

*I'm going to ignore the fact that I feel insulted here.*
Why would you feel insulted? This delusion you have is not really your fault.
*It doesn't take a certain kind of person to believe in God.*
Yes it does, just as it takes a certain kind of person NOT to believe in God.
It takes a certain kind of person who believes through faith rather than empirical evidence.
It takes a certain type of person who is so gullible that they will ignore all contrary evidence to their beliefs.
It takes a certain kind of person who will never admit that the Bible is wrong about many things.
*I think the bible is pretty clear that the blood of Jesus was shed for everyone not just for drug addicts who want to trade up.*
Let’s look a bit closer at this. *The blood of Jesus was shed for everyone.* Presumably his blood is to save all mankind from eternal torment in Hell. This is pretty illogical as it was Jesus’ mistakes (as creator) in the first place that condemns everyone to Hell. Maybe if God had created perfect humans then the first sin would not have happened, Jesus was pretty dumb.
Now we are asked to believe that God requires that his Son (himself really) to be tortured and killed to wipe out the mistakes that God made in the first place! LOL, God requires that God be killed to make things right between God and his creation again. This is really an ignorant faith that has been responsible for untold suffering; Christianity has been an abomination on mankind since it was dreamed up.
*..not just for drug addicts who want to trade up.*
So you admit then that it is similar to being a drug addict, thank you for confirming my theory.
*So you know my nature now do you?*
Evidently.
*Boy you're brilliant must be phsycic or something.*
Nope, just educated and experienced.
*That aside yes it USED to be my nature to be addicted to something.*
So I was correct then? Funky, you cannot change your nature, you can try to suppress certain parts of it, but if it is in you nature then it is in your nature.
*This is the incredible thing here!*
Yes it is incredible, that’s certainly one word for it.
*This being drunk on the Spirit I mentioned is not something I go out of my way to attain, it's not a high in the usual sense of the word.*
But it is still a high that you are obviously addicted to because it is in your nature, as you admit.
*It's just something that happens when you allow the Holy Spirit to dwell within you,*
You contradict yourself here, you say that you don’t go out of your way to get drunk on the Holy Spirit but then you also allow it to dwell within you. You appear not to go out of your way to AVOID it either! Your addictive nature again.
Are you a passive participant or can you reject the Holy Spirit’s intrusions into your life?
*when you listen to his gentle urges and allow him to make you God's instrument.*
What does he say, what are you an instrument for, what does an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God need with a former drug addict?
*It's that proximity to God, to be in his graces that leaves your spirit exhilerated and rejuvinated.*
Exhilarated and rejuvenated like the affect artificial stimulants have on a person? All these highs and you don’t have to spend all your money on it, or steal from your friends and family or beg, great!!
I am actually glad that the belief in God has saved you from your former life; God does have his uses.
Now that God has got you out of this tragic lifestyle, ditch God and take up fishing, or writing, or some other hobby. Holding onto belief in god in the obsessive way you have shown at this forum will do you serious long term psychological damage, you might get a bit cold and wet while fishing but you can always dry yourself off and warm yourself up at a fire.
Best Wishes
Brian.
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