MATRIX related to Bible?

Seriously, the Biblical elements in the Matrix are not subtle. But it's not like Christianity invented the idea of saviors, after all. I think that the movie is drawing more on that primal proto-myth than on anything specifically Christian.Nonetheless you're free to interpret the movie however you like, and however you can support it from the work. I just don't see why the Christian elements are any more significant than the Buddist or Gnostic, unless you're a Christian, I guess.

Well, isn't that the point of this thread? If it wasn't why didn't you call it "Religious themes in The Matrix" or "MATRIX related to Bible, Buddism, and Gnosticism"?It seems like you singled out the Bible as a specific, significant reference to The Matrix. Why did you do that if that's not the point of the thread?

Well, technically, you would be saying it, when you started the thread.Perhaps that's neither here nor there. What exactly did you want to talk about in regards to the Bible and the Matrix? Yes, the Matrix is informed and influenced by the Bible. Given that the Bible has been the most influental literature in the history of the English-speaking world I don't find that odd. You could find Biblical references in Dude, Where's My Car if you looked hard enough.Now, is it your position that the Brothers W (hope you don't mind my shorthand) intended to present a dramatic retelling of the Bible, as your quote seems to indicate? That specfically Biblical themes are central to their work? Because I don't agree, and so we could talk about that. Otherwise maybe you could make it a little clearer what you wanted to talk about, here.

A stupid ending. Jesus, first Slashdot, and now here. Why does everybody suggest a "It was all a dream!" ending like that's a brilliant idea? It's the oldest, dumbest idea in the book, dude.I mean, geez. It applies to any movie. What if at the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, he wakes up and realizes it's all a dream? What if at the end of Dinner with Andre he wakes up and realizes that the entire dinner was just a dream?If those are stupid ideas for those movies, why do you think it would work any better for the Matrix?Not to jump down your throat, but anybody who would suggest such an ending has really no idea about how fiction works. All fiction is a dream, of sorts. To actually spell that out at the end is pandering and infuriating to everybody whose time you're wasting.

Sure. And I think interpreting the three Matrix movies as "Neo wakes up and it was all a dream" is particularly lame because it misses a really exciting, similar interpetation of the movies - that the W Bros. are trying to imply that transcendence is a process, not a destination. In a sense, he's woken up from one illusion into another, and worse yet, it's illusions all the way up. There's never an ultimately "real" reality, because transcendence is always possible.The real world in the Matrix is still to be taken as the real world that we're familiar with. It's just that, just as it's possible to transcend the Matrix, it's possible to transcend this reality, too. And whatever's beyond, as well.That's a very interesting premise indeed. I fear though that people might miss it as they struggle with stupid "dream within a dream" scenarios.

It's not that it's offensive. It's that it's trivial. The Matrix movies bear a resemblance to the Bible because that's exactly what the Brothers W intended - that their movies should riff on themes common to religions, like transcendence and secret knowledge. It's mind-boggling that you find the resemblance to the Bible significant to talk about.It's like being the last person to notice that "The Passion of the Christ" might just touch on a few Biblical themes.Duh.