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goldenlightArchangel Member (Idle past 1152 days) Posts: 583 From: Roraima Peak Joined: |
Hello,
According to the eternal justice of the everlasting loveand by the everlasting covenant of the Word become flesh, --YHWH'SHUAH -- I AM IS THE SALVATION--, In whose name would killing be lawful? According to the everlasting covenant of eternal Justice,Is it lawful to kill or slaughter the man in the name of a land, or of a country, or of a flag, or of an institution of doctrine, or of an imposition of operation of law, or of any command from man? * Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : *
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goldenlightArchangel Member (Idle past 1152 days) Posts: 583 From: Roraima Peak Joined: |
What if the nations weren't deceived by the doctrines of religion, the dragon Legion,
by fides quae creditur and doctrines of demons, What if the leaders of those nations had ears to hear and listen to the Lamb,the Word become flesh said: Love your enemies, and spontaneously do good to them, that is also operation of Aemunah--fidelitate to I AM--Jehavéh--YHWH alone. But the operation of the doctrine of fides quae creditur,which belonged to the Mother prostitute (spiritual city--church), is the one that had been chosen by many protestant leaders of many nations. In Revelations the Scripture says that the leaders of those nations had been believing the father of the beliefs--the dragon--the ancient serpent, and that all the land had been amazed after the beast (imposed doctrine). * Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : paragraph Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : *
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teen4christ Member (Idle past 5799 days) Posts: 238 Joined: |
Are you trying to win the most-abstruse-writing-style award?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: Absolutely it is lawful, and comes under lawful defense. This is common to all life forms. What is not lawful: Mass murder because one follows a different belief, and such murders disguised by other false deflections. And here we have primarilly christianity, followed by Islamists. I would say, many christians and muslims may be surprised what questions confront them if there is a hereafter judgement - I'm sure nothing they imagine will be asked, only thoese which will make their booties melt.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: They will have no problem inventing a different ideology. Murder predates religions, and also occurs outside it.
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goldenlightArchangel Member (Idle past 1152 days) Posts: 583 From: Roraima Peak Joined: |
wrote: 'Absolutely it is lawful, and comes under lawful defense.'
Eternal Justice is when all things are freely given. Not taken. the believers have been crediting in chance, but the knowledge of the truth is that once there is an eternal justicethen one's permanence or anihilation does depend on one's own choices or on the choice of the One that had chosen him--her to whether remain or not. See it,If the man gives his life for the love of a country or for the love of a flag, or for the love of an institution of doctrine or imposition of operation of law, or for the love of any command from man, then it is obvious that he loves a human being above all thingsand that is not the love of Jehaveh--I AM above all things.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Jeohova understandeth the nature of man - because that nature was constructed by Jehova. We find that all life forms have certain basic requirements, such as air to breathe, food and also a place to park at night. A land is an inherently internal construct embedded in all life forms; perhaps one day in the future, this may become obsolete and all nations will be subject to global criteria - but this will be replaced by new paradigms.
The notion of the love of God not being limited to a temple, was also a message here, but one cannot take a people to task for having an unbreakable attachment to a land. Subconsciously, one is most at ease in the land they were born, their body cells recognise this attachment, which is akin to smell being the longest held in memory. Thus the Hebrews were lured with the emotional premise of a promised land flowing with milk and honey - this became attached to their beings and dna. This trait is seen in all life forms: else mankind would not have survived and been able to contain offspring and generations of a race and athnicity, or as a nation. Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph,
Jeohova understandeth the nature of man - because that nature was constructed by Jehova. Amd yet punished all subsequent generations because some fruit got eaten. If he understood the nature of man, wouldn't he have put a fence around it? Seems to me he didn't understand it at all. Mark There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
I see that as a naive interpretation. The forthcoming OT laws clearly define what constitutes a violation, so the reading of the eden story must be intergrated with those laws.
The eden story affirms the most prized aspiration of a human: immortality and ultimate knowledge. Here, no matter what other gifts were given to man, it would be deficient when placed in a garden displaying the ultimate prizes. It is blatant that the occurence of death was already pre-established before adam and eve were cursed with this punishment: why else forbid the fruit of the tree of everlasting life? And why such an overwhleming temptation, which none could resist, be the measurement of this violation? We know there is a law in the OT, one must not tie the mouth of animal when it is thresding the grain - because this is overwhelming temptation and pain to that animal. Eve was placed in the same position, compounded with the serpent's tauntings. I see this story of what humans can anticipate in life, and this is vindicated. We are constantly and continuously tempted at every turn. But it does not appears as causeless punishment, there is more here than meets the eye.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph,
I see that as a naive interpretation. The forthcoming OT laws clearly define what constitutes a violation, so the reading of the eden story must be intergrated with those laws. It's got nothing to do with "laws", it has to do with the nature of maN & god telling man not to do something that he allegedly knew was against his nature. Mark There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
I agree it appears an overwhleming demand put to them. But on closer examination, even after the punishment was declared, there is clear signs of love and affection, namely that Adam and Eve are clothed by God when they became aware of their nakedness [a sign of knowledge].
The other aspect is that this did not happen on this physical realm, but from another realm from which they were cast down to earth. There are aspects of this episode I do not understand and see as mysterious or enigmatic. I don't think it is a simple story, but says something metaphorically.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph,
I agree it appears an overwhleming demand put to them. But on closer examination, even after the punishment was declared, there is clear signs of love and affection, namely that Adam and Eve are clothed by God when they became aware of their nakedness [a sign of knowledge]. Oh well, that's alright, then. All humanity gets doomed but as long as Adam & Eve get nice duds... The fact remained that god knew their nature yet punished them for it. Mark There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
All our wrongs, sins and failings are pre-known and anticipated. With regard their punishment, it does appear that death was already factored in - the reason they were forbidden and stopped to eat from the tree of life. The knowledge tree being given to humans means there had to be laws, which did come forth.
But adam and eve were not destroyed, nor was Cain punished with death for the crime of murder. This means they were not punished in line with the crime commited, according to the laws of murder. The situation is akin to how a parent or teacher would deal with children - even to allow them to touch a fire and get burnt, as a lesson of what they face in life.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
The fact remained that god knew their nature yet punished them for it.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Absolutely.
'Know for a surety thy seed shall be in bondage'
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