Destruction of Pompei is 1631 year.

Is there any legitimate reason, whatsoever, to think that Pliny the Younger or Tacitus were somehow lying? Because they did write about it. And if they did write about it, but lied, what did it serve? Why would some hoax be perpetrated? What would be gained by doing so?Secondly, look at the garb worn by the people entombed in the calcified ash. They are wearing 1st century Roman clothing, which looks nothing like what was worn in the 1600's. The pictographs on the wall represent 1st century Roman clothing as well, not knights in chainmail armor, or Renaissance era attire. The radiometric dating of the materials found indicate 1st century time frame.The better question to you, is: Do you really believe that 117 years after this epic disaster, people somehow forgot about it, and then rediscovered it? The date you give is almost 100 years after Da Vinci and Michaelangelo! Yet no one from history even eludes to the date you give.This is fantasy. The eruption of Pompeii may not have been exactly 79 AD. But there is no way any credible historian would honestly believe that it took place in 1631 AD. Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : typo

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Did you forget that it is you arguing for the 1631 date? All I was doing in my Message 119 was pointing out that the source you cited in support of a 1631 AD date actually contradicts your position, stating unequivocally that the date was 79 AD.--Percy

From this website, which provides a lot of detail on the AD 79 eruption:

The few Roman depictions of Vesuvius on wall murals all show the volcano as a single cone with no hint of Monte Somma. In addition, medieval and Renaissance depictions of eruptions invariably show the summit of Vesuvius below the summit of Monte Somma instead of substantially above it as it is today.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

My daughter and I saw Lucy at the Houston Museum of Natural Science the same day as we later saw the Pompeii exhibit at the Houston Museum of Fine Arts. Now the Pompeii exhibit was pushing that 79 AD eruption with all these artifacts including many body casts, that filled at least three large rooms.Amazing, the city of Houston must be such a real hotbed of fakery that it must take thousands of people to create this matrix-like artificial reality. And what is even more amazing (considering how military secrets leak out so soon) is that of everyone in on the conspiracy, not one has gone to the press, or even the tabloids or Fox News, with the 'real truth.'

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

Yeah, that's pretty much how they work. There must be something very alluring to conspiracy theorists that they insist on having the skinny on "secret" information. Meanwhile we're all just dumb and unsuspecting sheep bleating away, while the hidden truth is beyond our grasp or comprehension. Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : Edit to fix typo

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I think that Pliny the Younger has described real eruption of Vesuvius (or Etna), but this eruption has no communication with eruption destroyed Pompeii and Herculaneum. However there are following facts.
Epitaffio from Torre dell Greco Engraving from the book - MASCULI I. B. (1633) - De incendio Vesuvii excitato XVlI kal Ianuarii anno trigesimo primo saeculi decimiseptimi, Roncaglido, Napoli. (see Message 118)From these facts follows that in 17 century there were any cities with the name Pompeii and Herculaneum and these cities have been destroyed on December, 16th, 1631.If it will be interesting to you, I will try to translate into English some more the facts in support of the version.
Interesting photos from Pompey are here ‘ | — KasparovChess

Do you have any comment on my post #123, above? Particularly the medieval drawings showing the mountain in the post-eruption state?How about the information in the website I linked to?

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There is here such picture probably showing a real cone of Vesuvius in 1631. It is visible here that top Somme above (or it is equal) tops of Vesuvius.See also in 1514. Edited by Admin, : Reduce image size.

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Nemesis Juggernaut
The better question to you, is: Do you really believe that 117 years after this epic disaster, people somehow forgot about it, and then rediscovered it?

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How you think, when people have recollected, what channel Sarno has constructed Domeniko Fountana in 1600?
If they assumed in 1817 that it has been constructed in 15 century.

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Aggiungasi, che Niccola di Alagni padre della famosa Lucrezia di Alagni creato dal re Alfonso I conte di Sarno fece scavare un acquidotto, che dove attraversare tutta la piata di Pompei per trasportarsi l` acqua sino alla Torre.
Viaggio a Pompei a Pesto e di ritorno ad Ercolano ed a Pozzuoli
By Domenico Romanelli
Published by , 1817, Napoli

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This is an approach I’ve never heard before. It is widely acknowledged that Vesuvius destroyed Pompeii in 79 AD. Your conspiracy theory is amazing because somehow the people hiding the facts about the real date found a way to get the entire tree ring history from Europe, Japan and South America to go along with their ruse. Even if Pliny the Younger did not record the event, Carbon 14 dating on bread and Argon / Argon dating on ejected lava date the catastrophe to the late first century.Carbon 14 and Argon / Argon dating are in no way calibrated by dates in history books. They are anchored in the repeatable laws of nature. Carbon 14 date calibration is firmly anchored to indisputable tree ring and coral layer evidence. For a complete understanding of how Carbon 14 calibration works try taking a look at the Fairbanks Radio Carbon Calibration web site. The address is attached. http://radiocarbon.ldeo.columbia.edu/...arch/radiocarbon.htmYou can also look up INTCAL 2009. This is the current gold standard in R14 calibration.

Welcome! It is good to have another poster who is familiar with radiocarbon dating.Correcting the errors that show up in sites like this is a never-ending task.

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