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NosyNed
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Message 16 of 63 (292932)
03-07-2006 10:18 AM


Mike the Wiz (belatedly)
Message 196
Mike stands back and explains the No-True-Scotsman fallacy more clearly than, I think, everyone else after almost 200 posts.
I kinda forgot I promised to POTM it and then stumbled over others offering kudos too and my note that I would.

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Message 17 of 63 (292935)
03-07-2006 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by NosyNed
03-07-2006 10:18 AM


Re: Mike the Wiz (belatedly)
Haha, it's okay, I only read you would promote it an hour or so ago.
Much apreciated kind Sir.

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Message 18 of 63 (293145)
03-08-2006 4:13 AM


Many people, at "Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation"
Author: Many
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation
Messages: Many
As I prepare this message, the topic is at message 14. My impression is that the entire topic is well done, but I'll give special kudos to messages 8-14.
These messages, in order, are by Chiroptera, RAZD, purpledawn, crashfrog, nwr, PaulK, and rgb.
Moose

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Message 19 of 63 (293333)
03-08-2006 2:26 PM


NosyNed, evidence, and evidence
Author: NosyNed
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation
Message: #27
NosyNed has written what is in my opinion a good post about evidence. He makes the good point (if I am interpreting him correctly) that what makes something evidence is how naturally the details fit into the proposed theory vs. how many ad hoc explanations are needed.
Edited to get the thread title correct.
This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 08-Mar-2006 07:26 PM
{Edited URL to change from
EvC Forum: Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation
to
EvC Forum: Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation
The first version will get a reader to the correct message IF, for that readers setup, message 16 and 27 are on the same page. If such is not the case, the reader will get the page containing message 16. The second version will get a reader to the correct message regardless of their personal page setup choice.
Bottom line - When you do a link to a specific message, it's best that those two message numbers at the end of the URL are the same number - m=27#27, not m=16#27. - Adminnemooseus}
This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 03-08-2006 02:50 PM
Important hip tip. Thanks, moose.
-- Chiroptera
This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 08-Mar-2006 09:28 PM

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Message 20 of 63 (293374)
03-08-2006 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Chiroptera
03-08-2006 2:26 PM


Re: NosyNed, evidence, and evidence
Thank you Chiroptera.

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Message 21 of 63 (293407)
03-08-2006 5:38 PM


roxrkool, DBlevins, at "Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation..."
Author: roxrkool
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation
Message: 38
The main problem I see is that it's relatively simple for a YEC to offer up their evidence in the form of fossils being on mountaintops. To someone completely unfamiliar with geology and tectonics, the idea of water having to cover mountaintops for that to happen, makes perfect sense. How elso could fossils get up there? However, for a scientist to explain the mainstream version, they have to go into excruciating detail of processes of sedimentation, depositional environments, fossil occurrences and why certain ones are found in certain places, eustasy, then tectonics.
And more.
Reflects on the mainstream science problem of how to state the science. Over simplification at the risk of presenting distorted information, or making the points in detailed messages that may end up containing a lot of rather specialized jargon, incomprehensible to those outside of that scientific discipline?
-----
Author: DBlevins
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation and Persuation
Message: 73
The problems of quality POTM like messages getting lost in posting frenzies.
Moose

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Message 22 of 63 (293499)
03-08-2006 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Minnemooseus
03-06-2006 1:30 AM


Re: Roxrkool, at "Global Flood Evidence: A Place For Faith to Present Some"
Wow. Thanks, Moose. That's a real compliment coming from you, although I actually think it is a very poorly written post.
You've often commented on the overly technical aspects of some of my posts, mainly the ones with the pictures or images. To me, they seem like they would really help people visualize the geology, but perhaps that is not the case. Or maybe I just need to choose simpler images.
Any suggestions? Percy's post in the Is It Science forum might be a good place for that sort of suggestion.

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Message 23 of 63 (293501)
03-08-2006 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Minnemooseus
03-08-2006 5:38 PM


Re: roxrkool, DBlevins, at "Dissecting the Evolutionist Approach to Explanation..."
Thanks, again.
I'm on a role...probably not. lol

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Message 24 of 63 (294090)
03-10-2006 5:14 PM


Faith, at "Searching for Ancient Truth"
Author: Faith
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Searching for Ancient Truth
Message: 22
{First, I don't really like the topic title (pretty fuzzy as far as what it means).}
Faith has posted way more messages than I can follow, and I wouldn't be able to remember them even if I did read them all.
That said, my impression is that the above cited is one of Faiths best science related messages. There is actually some good content there.
The topic in general seems pretty fuzzy to me. While Faiths message is not off-topic there, I personally think that it would be better located in the Long build up of Sediments topic, which was started earlier today. Perhaps Faith should post the same message at this other topic also.
Moose
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Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 25 of 63 (294115)
03-10-2006 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Minnemooseus
03-10-2006 5:14 PM


Re: Faith, at "Searching for Ancient Truth"
Thank you very much for the POTM, Moose. I will look at the other thread.

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Message 26 of 63 (294140)
03-10-2006 6:29 PM


Chiroptera on non-belief
Author: Chiroptera
Forum: Proposed New Topics
Thread: Motivations for the non-belief in God
Message: OP
It is difficult with certain posters to choose, among many very good posts, one that stands out. For Chiroptera, in my opinion, this one does. It is an even-tempered and thoughtful response to someone who seems to know what agnostics/atheists think regarding their own beliefs.
AdminNWR asked Chiroptera to reword it to make a better OP. Still, I think it deserves recognition.
Cheers.
This message has been edited by Michael, 03-10-2006 06:31 PM

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Message 27 of 63 (294142)
03-10-2006 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Michael
03-10-2006 6:29 PM


Re: Chiroptera on non-belief
Thank you, Michael.
I have had several posts nominated that I (in uncharacteristic humility) do not feel really deserve the honor; and I have written several posts that I thought were worthy but were not nominated. This is the first time a post I am more than usually pleased with has been nominated.
At any rate, after rewriting the OP, the thread has been promoted if anyone feels they want to contribute to the topic.

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Message 28 of 63 (294148)
03-10-2006 6:59 PM


roxrkool, at "Searching for Ancient Truth"
Author: roxrkool
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Searching for Ancient Truth
Message: 26
A fine geology message, alas it is in a "Is It Science?" forum topic. Oh well, at least I'll get it flagged in the POTM forum.
Faith perhaps deserves an honorable mention for her message 23, which led to roxy's message.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 29 of 63 (294268)
03-11-2006 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Minnemooseus
03-10-2006 6:59 PM


Re: roxrkool, at "Searching for Ancient Truth"
Seconded. It reminds me of a similar attempt I made long ago Faith, though using a different tack of "how they do it" in geology. Hope Rox meets with better success.

holmes
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Message 30 of 63 (294276)
03-11-2006 11:57 AM


Faith, at "Long build up of Sediments"
Author: Faith
Forum: Geology and the Great Flood
Thread: Long build up of Sediments
Message: 19
What occurred to me to ask right now is How do geologists explain where all the sediment comes from that has supposedly piled up to such a depth?
IMO, one of the greatest questions ever asked, in the history of .
See the cited topic for the discussion of that question and more, including my response at message 44.
Moose

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