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CanadianSteve Member (Idle past 6494 days) Posts: 756 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Joined: |
More women then men attend university, including law and medicine faculties. But that is not enough. The bar is moved. The left, and especially feminists, will not be pleased until women dominate every faculty.
But that aside, stats are not the way to determine justice. Equal opportunity is, and the results fall as they do. Your comment about conservatives not knowing justice is nothing other than obtuse silliness.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Your MO seems to be asking cheap-shot nuisance questions to keep your opponents busy over all kinds of trivia instead of doing what you yourself should be doing in order to understand the subject matter.
The point I was making about the AAUP was that all those things have been discussed to death by Horowitz and company,every objection that has come up here in this discussion as a matter of fact, and you need to read his answers to the charges. I posted links to his discussions of the AAUP complaints in Message 93. I don't need to read the AAUP stuff because he's answered it and it amounts to just another typical nuisance discussion. If you want to dispute certain points, fine, but don't throw whole diatribes against the ABOR into the middle of a discussion that's the usual pile-on by the EvC Nitpickers and Naysayers while of course ignoring every point made on the other side. Thank you.
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CanadianSteve Member (Idle past 6494 days) Posts: 756 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Joined: |
I didn't mean to say that women outnumber men in faculty positions. I meant as students. And , just as more women get into university ebcause they get better High School marks, so faculty should be determined on merit. And yet, affirmative action made it easier for my daughters to get into law school and med school than my sons. That was dumb. They had equal opportunity (and a ton of encouragement) and didn't need affirmative action, nor deserved it. The same applies for faculty. There should be an objective determination process, and whoever best qualifies gets the job: Period.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Your comment about conservatives not knowing justice is nothing other than obtuse silliness. Maybe you're too new here to get more than a warning, but you could get yourself suspended for that kind of remark. But I'm sure glad to see it said. Crashfrog is notable for callow obtuse silliness which he presents as words of wisdom. Now maybe I'll get suspended again. Carry on. Appreciate your comments.
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CanadianSteve Member (Idle past 6494 days) Posts: 756 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Joined: |
I agree, of course, with just about all you say on tbhis subject. The objectors are taking a stand against a bill of rights. What else needs to be said?
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: That comment was unwarranted, and I apologize for it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The objectors are taking a stand against a bill of rights. What else needs to be said? Exactly. The left that takes such pride in its championing of rights shows its true suppressive colors, but they're too obtuse to recognize the irony.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Your comment about conservatives not knowing justice is nothing other than obtuse silliness. Funny - that's not the comment I made. I guess conservatives don't know how to read, either?
Crashfrog is notable for callow obtuse silliness which he presents as words of wisdom. What do you think you're going to accomplish by hurting my feelings all the time like that, Faith? How very Christian of you.
The objectors are taking a stand against a bill of rights. What else needs to be said? Oh, name games. How very mature!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What do you think you're going to accomplish by hurting my feelings all the time like that, Faith? How very Christian of you. One would hope it would deter you from the insulting rude and stupid things you say to me for one thing, but I guess that's a futile hope.
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nator Member (Idle past 2191 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Then maybe you should say "students" rather than "faculties".
quote: Right, just like women who do the same work as men should get paid the same. ...except thay don't, do they?
quote: Did they, though? If they had been trying to get into law and med school in the 1950's, do you think it would have been just as easy? Why or why not? Do you think that the attitudes towards women in higher education have become completely egalitarian in a single generation? I don't.
quote: Tell that to all of the Title 9 athletes.
quote: I agree. But women have been shown to be discriminated against in many areas of academia, at almost all levels. Read a LOT of info about this and related issues, including affermative action here
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
One would hope it would deter you from the insulting rude and stupid things you say to me for one thing By being rude and insulting yourself? How would that work? I ask again - what's the point of all this? What do you hope to accomplish when you substitute insult for argument?
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