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Author Topic:   Dover science teachers refuse to read ID disclaimer
JJPgac
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Message 152 of 164 (279960)
01-19-2006 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by Percy
12-23-2005 12:34 PM


Re: Discovery Institute vows the fight is not over...
"They believe that persistence will pay off and therefore plan to continue the obfuscation instead of engaging in true scientific research"
I completely agree with Percy here. To the figureheads (aka Phillip Johnson and friends) this is not about getting ID into schools, but rather getting the word out on intelligent design. Johnson is a law professor at Berkley, he is not a stupid man. He knows that if the law is truly upheld ID will not be allowed in schools. They and others at discover institute obviously know that the law needs to be altered before ID can enter schools. Perhaps not so much the law, but the definition of science. All of these battles are only publicity stunts and ways to get their ideas into public.
I myself am a Christian, but I do believe in the United States constitution. I believe intelligent design has no place in publics schools, or at least science class. Would it be bad to show evidence against evolution? My opinion is no, but it should in no way be in a religious manner (with all the controversy today I say good luck with that).
Last but not least. Many of these fanatical Christians are making other Christians look very bad, or at least not giving DI the exposure it wants. For example, the one comment made ..."Show me where it says in the constitution there needs to be a separation of church and state." To me that shows sheer ignorance for IDer's. Of course this does not mean all of them think that way (I sure hope they don't), but this is bad publicity nonetheless.
Or how the judge Jones said " It is ironic how several of these individuals, who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the ID policy."
Yes, DI and its ID theory is getting exposed, but to what cost? I could be wrong, perhaps there are more pros to this situation than cons. But I do think that if ID wants to make a stronger impact, it can not have mindless people running around condemning every aspect of the law and science.

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