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nator
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Message 36 of 164 (183463)
02-06-2005 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Syamsu
02-06-2005 8:16 AM


Re: A battle won in Alaska
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Well I think you went way overboard. It's *home*schooling, not stateschooling,
...except that this woman was getting money from citizen's taxes to indoctrinate people into her religion, which violates the Constitution of the US.
She cannot use public funds to endorse any one religion. That is against the US Constitution. She can do it on her own dollar all she wants.
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people's individual liberty goes at home.
Not when she is getting public money to spread her religious views.
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You might just as well say, people aren't allowed to buy religious books of their social security,
Sure they can, because their individual social security money is for their own living expenses.
This woman was using public education taxes to promote her religion.
The equivalent would be if the government made people take a religious oath to believe in Jesus before getting their social security check.

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 37 of 164 (183465)
02-06-2005 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Lithodid-Man
02-06-2005 6:01 AM


Re: A battle won in Alaska
Well done! You fought the good fight and won. I do not consider it a small victory at all.
What did your son think of all this? What did he think of what he had been taught?

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 49 of 164 (183981)
02-08-2005 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Syamsu
02-07-2005 11:37 AM


Re: A battle won in Alaska
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Yes dump the program, dump public schooling, so the taxes are lower, so people have money left over to organize education shared resource programs themselves. No state funding.
Dump publically-funded education? No thanks.
Anybody who wants to can send their children to private schoos, or they can also home school their children.
However, even if they do this, they must also pay school taxes, just like everyone else.
It is in the best interests of a country to provide a basic education to ALL of it's citizens, and since our government is secular, we don't indoctrinate people in any religion in public schools.
This is similar to the idea that it is in the best interests of a country to provide for the common defense in the form of a national military. Individual citizens, or entire regions, do not always agree with what the president or congress has the military do. Similarly, individual citizens or entire regions do not always agree with what is taught in public schools.
Do you then suggest that we should scrap the entire national military program, so that taxes are lower, so people have money left over to organize a shared resource program themselves?
Would this work?

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 96 of 164 (252975)
10-19-2005 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by joshua221
10-19-2005 5:47 AM


Re: now show me yours
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Sciguy, the physical evidence lies with evolution, but the physical evidence doesn't matter.
Do you like to drive?

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nator
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Message 101 of 164 (253513)
10-20-2005 7:22 PM
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10-19-2005 5:16 PM


Re: now show me yours
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Sciguy, the physical evidence lies with evolution, but the physical evidence doesn't matter.
Do you like to be able to use the internal combustion engine for travel, or use plastics, or use anything that needed fossil fuels for manufacture, shipping, etc.?
How do you think fossil fuels are located?
This message has been edited by schrafinator, 10-20-2005 07:23 PM

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nator
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Message 102 of 164 (254694)
10-25-2005 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by joshua221
10-19-2005 5:16 PM


bump for prohex
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