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nator
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Message 16 of 23 (45799)
07-11-2003 11:33 PM
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07-11-2003 3:23 PM


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I haven?t studied Mormonism that much, I lost interest when I realised that Joseph Smith was imply having a laugh. I mean the word ?moron? is too prevalent in Mormonism, a follower is only one letter away from a moron, they have an angel who is also only one letter away from a moron. Also what is Kolob all about, did Smith realise if you spell this backwards then the truth about his belief becomes clear?
ROTFLMAO!!! Thanks for that joke, it was great!
Anyway, thanks also for relating your story. My friend converted while we were still college roomates, and graduated not long after. We got together for a visit about a year later and after laughing, goofing around and generally having a really good time, she commented to me that she really missed being around "people like me". We talked some more about that and I rather took her comment to mean, "someone lively who had a pretty quick wit and who had a lot of opinions and insights and thoughts about lots of different subjects."
I didn't say anything at the time, but all I wanted to tell her was,
"What do you $*!@ing expect?! You hang around a bunch of Mormons now. They aren't allowed to take a crap unless they follow the correct ritual, let alone read or do anything even slightly culturally challenging!"
She found a safe community of people to lean on and think for her, but she lost the exposure to people with independent thought.
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Rrhain
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Message 17 of 23 (45800)
07-11-2003 11:56 PM
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07-11-2003 3:23 PM


Brian Johnston writes:
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Regarding the difficulty of thinking, I have noticed how anti-intellectual most Christians are. The Christians that I have had discussions with, and there are many, all seem to detest knowledge. I have lost count of the number of Christians who have said to me you may have a lot of ‘head’ knowledge, but that wont save you.’ They seem to have his deep-rooted belief that there is this ‘other world’ where only the intellectually bankrupt will be welcome.
This isn't just a problem with Christians, as you pointed out. If you look at the deconstructionists and many others on the radical Left, there is an extreme amount of anti-intellectualism going on. Many in the arts/humanities often have a bias against the sciences, thinking them "cold" or "unfeeling." And, of course, many in the sciences often have a bias against the arts/humanities, thinking them "frivolous" and "irrelevant."
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Message 18 of 23 (45817)
07-12-2003 3:13 AM
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07-11-2003 11:56 PM


And, of course, many in the sciences often have a bias against the arts/humanities, thinking them "frivolous" and "irrelevant."
What I really hated about being an English major with a bunch of science major friends was the constant ribbing about how easy the major was. Oddly enough the easiest classes I ever took were the science ones. Other than that they were absolutely right, of course. And that didn't help at all.

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Rrhain
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Message 19 of 23 (45822)
07-12-2003 8:13 AM
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07-12-2003 3:13 AM


crashfrog responds to me:
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What I really hated about being an English major with a bunch of science major friends was the constant ribbing about how easy the major was. Oddly enough the easiest classes I ever took were the science ones. Other than that they were absolutely right, of course. And that didn't help at all.
And to think that part of the reason I went into Math was that English had, in my mind, "too much writing." Little did I realize there is just as much writing in the sciences...just of a different kind. Especially since for my regular job, I do tech support which often requires technical writing.
In the end, I got it from both sides being a Math major/Theatre minor. The science types thought I was an artsy-fartsy flake. The theatre types thought I was an emotionless technonerd. Turns out, I was both: An artsy-fartsy technonerd. If only I had gone into computer science since the field of computer graphics was just taking off as I was graduating....
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Message 20 of 23 (45825)
07-12-2003 9:56 AM
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07-12-2003 8:13 AM


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And to think that part of the reason I went into Math was that English had, in my mind, "too much writing."
Lol... I avoided English because all the professors of English I knew were far too convinced of their own intelligence.
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nator
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Message 21 of 23 (45836)
07-12-2003 4:20 PM
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07-11-2003 11:56 PM


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Many in the arts/humanities often have a bias against the sciences, thinking them "cold" or "unfeeling." And, of course, many in the sciences often have a bias against the arts/humanities, thinking them "frivolous" and "irrelevant."
That's why everyone should get a Liberal Arts education, like I did.
I studied a lot of specialized Equine Biology for my major, but I also took a lot of history, psychology, and writing classes.
There were about 7 core "Liberal Arts" classes that you had to take to graduate; one each from the various departmentsd like music, art, history, science, English, etc.
One of those core classes, called "The Nature of Scientific Inquiry", changed my life.

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Zhimbo
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Message 22 of 23 (45843)
07-12-2003 4:44 PM
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07-12-2003 8:13 AM


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The science types thought I was an artsy-fartsy flake. The theatre types thought I was an emotionless technonerd. Turns out, I was both: An artsy-fartsy technonerd.
Better than being an emotionless flake, I say.

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Autocatalysis
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Message 23 of 23 (45918)
07-13-2003 9:26 PM
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07-12-2003 8:13 AM


Having completed a BSC and a BA(vis art). It has become my opinion that productivity of creative expression stems from an analytical approach. How does this work fit into the field? Does it continue another’s work? What issues does it address? Where is it leading? Heck, the approach taken by lecturers in my BA echoed scientific methodology. I think the distinction between art and science/ humanities and science is somewhat artificial. When you get to the frontier of science where creative solutions are required this becomes most evident.
But back to the topicin which of these fields would you expect to find a book claiming infallible truth?

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