AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)

Rock dating is unrelated to evolutionary theories, though. It is mainly done by examining the amount of specific radioactive materials, and comparing that to the measured decay rates.Could you further detail what you think is wrong with the measurements done by most scientists (who comes up with dates easily exceeding millions of years, which incidentally is also backed up by cosmonology and other fields)? Could you give details on your own methods (since you said you had done it on your own) and point out why you believe your results are more correct?

Not here!! Go to one of the dates and dating topics for that. Let's try to stick to the topic here.

I look at a rock and realize it was made not much more than 6000 years ago, or perhaps around flood time. The 'nose' suggests no dating be delved into, so we can't dazzle each other with our old age young age assumptions. Assuming there is no creator, assuming there was no flood, assuming the cosmos conjured itself up, etc. Why I think I'm right? Because I just happen to agree with the Almighty on this one.

Just go to the appropriate thread or open one. You can delve all you want.This is one of the areas where the YEC'ers always give up and run though so I don't expect much.

14gipper,
Please provide scientific evidence that there is in fact a god and that Evolution never took place, and if you can't do that then support your statements that the Theory of Evolution is "Anti-God".And while you're at it provide evidence that God is really a Christian god.Once you do so I will fully support the removal of Evolution from schools and the reinstatement of prayer.

The proof is in the pudding, try it, you just might like it! You can't really prove God to someone who chooses to disbelieve. Jesus rose Lazarus from the dead, not everyone believed though. Jesus fed thousands with a handful of food, walked on water, raised the dead, made wine from water, healed thousands, paid His taxes with money He had someone fish for, and so on. then you have the red sea, and Elijah, etc. But, as Jesus said, though on be raised from the dead, yet they will not believe. How many scores of witnesses saw Him, after He rose from the dead? So, bottom line, despite millions of changed lives even since then, we don't have to believe. Unlike the evolution theory, it is optional, and already proved ten thousand times ten thousand times, to the tenth power, multiplied by infinity. The only real alternative to God, is the theory that leaves Him out. It is what it is.
So I can't count on your support unless and until you decide yourself. Let's not be like the graffiti someone saw years ago in Europe. 'God is dead, Nitzhe' then years later he returned to the same spot to see it crossed out, and replaced with 'Nitzhe is dead, God'.

But of course you can't forget that a few years later it said,"Nitzhe is God, Dead."But on a more serous note, where did you get the info for the last post? The bible, right? Where else can you show us some objective evidence that Jesus did the things you claim or even existed for that matter? So, unless you want to embrace the joys of circular reasoning I suggest you find a different, more objective source.

Yeah, funny thing about that. I guess it really makes evangelism a lot easier when you only talk to people who are already ready to believe you.That's why I like science so much. It works whether or not you believe in it. Try it. Wake up tomorrow totally skeptical about the reliability of your TV. Be as convinced as you can that it won't turn on, and then try to turn it on and see what happens. If it worked yesterday, then I predict it will work for you tomorrow, whether or not you believe it. None?

not only does it work, it hops around so much you can hardly keep up with it! Today's 'science' is tomorrow's joke. A little like computers, out of date pretty quick. Try reading orgin of the species with a straight face. Science makes a good guide if you have the latest version of the book, and you stick to the spots that haven't had their signs changed lately. It makes a lousy god though. At least the bible is as good today as it was in Newton's day, or Darwin's, and it stays the same. When heaven and earth pass away, the word will still be as good as ever. When we teach our children how far man could stray from the truth, in thousands of years, it will still be rock solid. When present science has long become an eternal laughing stock, and a tale that is told, yes, we will still be excitedly discovering the hidden truths of the word.

Woo-hoo. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now. It may be unchanging, but it's unchangingly wrong. You'll have to pardon me if I hitch my wagon to the horse that's actually going somewhere. I'd rather be mostly right, and getting righter, than eternally wrong, like the Bible.[This message has been edited by crashfrog, 02-24-2004]

This topic has clearly degraded badly, and Gipper made all his points a very long time ago. In mercy to us all, I'm closing this topic.