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Author | Topic: It's a Sad Day For the Future Of American Children. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Which law specifically is that, and in what way do you feel it does not conflict with the court interpretation of the first amendment?
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5936 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
keith63
I simply think that any errors in the theory should be pointed out and explored. Without doubt this is true.There is an excellent story called Cargo Cult Science which you can locate as the last story on this webpage.http://www.velns.org/valts/feynman/ Scroll to tab on the right to near the bottom and locate this title and read. Let me know what you think.
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keith63 Inactive Member |
Which one. I see three and I am not sure which you are talking about.
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keith63 Inactive Member |
Error: 404
Here is the law and the site which I took it from.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: quote:
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: Okay. What part of "clear secular intent" is so confusing?
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keith63 Inactive Member |
In the case of Edwards v. Aguillard the Supreme Court in 1987 stated that "teaching a variety of scientific theories about the origins of humankind to school children might be validly done with the clear secular intent of enhancing the effectiveness of science instruction." The court also indicated that there should be no constitutional crisis created with including creation science so long as it is done with the "intent of enhancing the effectiveness of science instruction" and, provided it is not taught to the exclusion of evolution.
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keith63 Inactive Member |
The court also indicated that there should be no constitutional crisis created with including creation science so long as it is done with the "intent of enhancing the effectiveness of science instruction" and, provided it is not taught to the exclusion of evolution.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: You'll excuse the quotes, but I really hate repeating myself.
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5061 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
The difficulties ARE NOT taught out on the "advanced" level after all. Will Provine uses Phil Johnson's work as he used Jehova's Witness work in my day in an advanced undergraduate course - as a joke or to show why NOT to use it letting the student not come to any conclusion or come to Provine's. The thinking IS VERY ELEMENTARY and can be done on the most obvious level but becuase differntial equations have not been suplanted by the newer or different kinds of thinking that are available it is not until the advanced level that these issues today appear and then it is only over a small beer for every one else is off becoming lawyers, doctors and Bill Clinton. Leon Croizat sequestered himself in Venezula but continuted the same stuff he was doing at Harvard. He knew a generation before me that the world was not ready to get beyond "darwin" and it is really only creationists who are prepared. I only ask for the carrer which I paid for. If that in my generation casues me to become Socrates to the youth then that is what it will have to be becuase the alternative is a rack of rock and irate rats rating isotopes by the end of the day, today which already was another generation's unresovled problem. The children should not suffer no matter the politics.
I am saying that there is something IN THE CONTINUUM OF BIOLOGICAL CHANGE that I am only being able to abduct so far from creationism. The slowing down of the models on the time differential will only if monopolarly benefit an evolutionary presumption so there should be NO fear to have the science be a law. Perhaps it will first occur outside the US. Instead because only those with the differential equation tuaght understanding etc instead of "fear" what comes across is their insistence that traditional science remain in place which IS NOT FEAR and tears of not knowing God flow for the absecne of what WAS there. The elite simply default to a Lewontin position that the equations are too hard to solve. Wolfram suggeted otherwise and so had I. And now I expressed the secular side.How droll.
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5061 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
That's right. And that is why I am doumbfounded as to how this particular website can fail to try to develop this line of understanding. Ned for one refuses. That's his perogative I guess.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5936 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
keith63
Lol Just how do you propose that creationism would enhance the effectiveness of science instruction?
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Brad, I do NOT refuse. I give up. I think there is a difference. I can NOT understand what you are saying. Maybe my fault, maybe yours, maybe some of both. I do know that I'm not the only one who has a tough time with your posts so there is at least some chance that the fault lies there.
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Itachi Uchiha Member (Idle past 5643 days) Posts: 272 From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco Joined: |
neither evolution nor creation can be completely proven. nonbody was there when God created the universe and likewise nobody was present when the big bang occured. I guess we choose which one to believe in and which one we dont. both evolution and creation are religions. Their followers believe in them by faith
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Itachi Uchiha Member (Idle past 5643 days) Posts: 272 From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco Joined: |
both of them have their respective proofs and misteries. We should teach in our schools all the theories and since we are all free men we should let the students decide what they want to believe in.
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