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Author Topic:   What's the problem with teaching ID?
DivineBeginning
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Message 30 of 337 (424210)
09-26-2007 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Coragyps
02-28-2006 8:33 PM


And this is how the other theories could be taught:
"We weren't there...in fact nobody was there and we have no idea what the conditions were like, but we do know exactly what happened and can somehow prove it using mumbo jumbo and man made theories. So let's get to work.

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Message 31 of 337 (424212)
09-26-2007 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Percy
05-30-2007 10:31 AM


Re: I have no problem with teaching ID in a school but...
What do you think about his comment about ID being proven false? Has it really? Where is the proof?

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DivineBeginning
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Message 33 of 337 (424219)
09-26-2007 9:49 AM
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09-26-2007 9:43 AM


Re: I have no problem with teaching ID in a school but...
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I appreciate your examples. I happen to have faith in the divine creation of the world we live in. For me, it's easier that way. I can understand why some people don't believe the way I do. Outside of the realm of pure faith, it does seem implausible. But I happen to believe, that's just the kind of person I am.

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Message 83 of 337 (424478)
09-27-2007 8:17 AM
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09-26-2007 11:04 AM


Re: I have no problem with teaching ID in a school but...
The intent of the designer is spread throughout the entire bible.

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Message 84 of 337 (424479)
09-27-2007 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by ringo
09-26-2007 11:23 AM


You think being a Christian is easy? Read the Beattitudes, they are in the Sermon on the Mount, in Matthew. There is much persecution. And it is right, one day every knew will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. You will see

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DivineBeginning
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Message 86 of 337 (424482)
09-27-2007 8:52 AM
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09-27-2007 8:49 AM


No, both. What's wrong with that. The students deserve to know ALL beliefs about their existence don't they. Besides aren't we supposed to be teaching tolerance and diversity? Shouldn't Christianity fit in there somewhere?

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Message 88 of 337 (424485)
09-27-2007 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by nator
09-27-2007 9:03 AM


are you serious? There is ONE version of Christianity. It's contained in the Bible. It is really simple. God Created the earth. That's all I'm talking about. This thread is about ID, not Math, History, etc. Am I right? So, with regards to which version of Christianity, it should be obvious.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 90 of 337 (424487)
09-27-2007 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by jar
09-27-2007 9:09 AM


Re: I have no problem with teaching ID in a school but...
No, my friend, that is where you are wrong. Christianity is NOT a religion is a personal relationship with our Creator, and his Son Jesus Christ. But, as long as you are on the "religion in disguise" thing. I know you would have to agree that Atheism is a religion in itself, right? And so is Budhism, Hinduism, etc. These are all taught in schools. Why do you suppose that is?

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DivineBeginning
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Message 93 of 337 (424491)
09-27-2007 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by jar
09-27-2007 9:14 AM


Re: The Bible?
That's silly. Me, ignorant of Christianity? I have been studying the Bible for over 20 years. But then again, it is futile for me to expect that someone that hasn't experienced the love and grace that Jesus has to offer to understand what I'm talking about. I understand that there are large volumes of literature out there that contain writings from biblical times. I know this to be true. But the Bible is the only one inspired BY GOD HIMSELF. If there was some other writing that God wanted to be in the Bible, it would have been. He doesn't make mistakes. But then again, you wouldn't understand. You should try attending a Bible teaching church. Maybe God has something to say to your heart. There is a need in all of us to feel loved, and to know that we have a purpose in this world.

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DivineBeginning
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Message 94 of 337 (424492)
09-27-2007 9:22 AM
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09-27-2007 9:19 AM


Re: I have no problem with teaching ID in a school but...
This is where YOU are tremendously ignorant. Just because there is a Bible, doesn't mean it is religion. The Bible is God's way of communicating with us. On how to go about our lives. Living according to the scriptures. But I can't expect you to understand this if you haven't experienced God's forgiveness and grace in your life.

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Message 97 of 337 (424498)
09-27-2007 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by jar
09-27-2007 9:30 AM


Re: The Bible?
I really think you should attend a church service or too. A real, bible teaching, God fearing church. Not one that gets in your face, a good church. You seem pretty confident in your beliefs, so you shouldn't be too challenged. Right? You might find it interesting. In the meantime, I am going to pray for you. I will pray that God will open your heart to his wonderful grace and love he is offering. I have to go to work now. Take care my friend.

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Message 100 of 337 (424503)
09-27-2007 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by jar
09-27-2007 9:41 AM


Re: The Bible?
You need God in your life. You have been to churches that have spoiled your view of Jesus. That is a tragedy. But don't let it get you down. Try some more. If you are as confident as you seem, it shouldn't matter right? I will pray that you will find a good one. By the way, there is a thing called the Holy Bible. It is the number one best seller in all of history. I'm sure you've heard of it.

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Message 101 of 337 (424505)
09-27-2007 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Percy
09-27-2007 9:46 AM


Re: Back to the Topic of Teaching ID
I don't know how you could get around teaching ID in science class but ignoring the faith it stems from.

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Message 103 of 337 (424510)
09-27-2007 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by jar
09-27-2007 9:54 AM


Re: The Bible?
No, what makes the Holy Bible is what is God Breathed, and God inspired. The entire Bible (the one called "Holy Bible") is God breathed. Many men, from all over that part of the world, from different cultures, and different languages and different backgrounds wrote this book made of many little books. There may be other "bibles", but there is only one that is God inspired.

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