Evolution

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Originally posted by Lemming:
o yea Gene i was stating the fact about the pyramids you failed to answer you just put the real facts in failed to answer the question and anyway its not about how and why they was built it was about the people who built them they had more knowledge than that of any later day Human "Correct" (Because we can't build them "Now")

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Sorry Lemming but Pyramids are damn easy to build. You pile rocks on top of each other. I know there is a lot of mythology about the pyramids but there is nothing amazing about them except for the sheer brute force and time investments.------------------
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doubt that, explain the bottle then John, anyway these rocks was from over a 1000 miles away then you got to pile them up then carve them then a line them with stars and after all that they got to remain standing from when they was finished till now in a ever changing desert where the sand move over time why is the no road to the pyramids why why why you can't answer with factsso this means the people who built them was smarter then you and me and everyone that studies the eygption pyramids meaning a more advance life formDevolution maybe Evolution doubt it[This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-13-2002][This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-13-2002][This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-13-2002]

I am new to the forum, (this is my first post), but Lemming.... Consider slave labor. Yes, I concede that it was a architectural feat to gather the men and materials... However, the Egyptians we obviously very well versed in the building of pyramids (there are smaller versions of burial tombs like Great Pyramids of Giza dotted round Egypt). The ancient Egyptians, who, like any engineer/architect, had the building of the pyramids down to the finest detail, coupled with prior knowledge of how to build them and slave labor could make the pyramids. You get enough men together you can move very large objects and if you whip them enough, you can move the object long distances....
Yes, humans today may not be able to build the pyramids on the scale that they did back then... First, would you want to? I certainly would not want to spend years of my life trying (because the pyramids took a LONG time to build). Plus, we don't have the experience.. back in those time I am sure there was a 'head architect' that had prior knowledge of how to go about building a pyramid... we just have very limited records on how they did it. I am sure we could make something like it, but it would have our own spin on it. And second, we do pretty good on the technological marvels nowadays. You can take 20-50 guys and put up a skyscraper ANYWHERE in a matter of months. Yes, we have technology to help us, but we made the technology. Heck, the materials that a skyscraper is made of is more advanced then a big rock in the middle of a desert.Secondly, you ask how could they still be standing? Well the pyramids are essentially one BIG rock, a mountain if you will. Its not like the pyramids have huge caverns or open spaces, they are a maze of tunnels and small rooms. So, just like a mountain (which can have caves in it e.g limestone caves) can stand for thousands of years, so can the pyramids. They will just be a little weathered/eroded.Third, you ask why is there no road to the pyramids? Well you said it yourself, the desert is ever changing. Perhaps there was once a road, but roads (as demonstrated by the amount of potholes in all the ones I drive) don't normally last long. Also, since the pyramids were of obvious significance, the Egyptian may not have wanted just anyone showing up (eg grave robbers) so they could've pulled up any road that was there.... Just things to consider.And lastly, the Great Pyramids are not singular in their existence... there are the pyramids the Aztecs/Mayans? in Central America. So there are two 'advanced' civilizations existing at different points in time? At other points in time, do you believe humans have devolved, just because we didn't think it was worth the energy and effort to build a massive monument to the dead?Also, could you post the link or the information about this bottle you keep referring to? I tried to look it up on the Web to get the details, but I couldn't find anything.Thanks
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Lemming:Concerning the "bottle" thing: Are you referring to the beautifully carved alabaster vases and jars the Egyptians used to make? Like this one: Alabaster, for those of you who are mineralogically challenged, is a verrry soft marble, easily carved with metal implements (even with a knife). Its use (because of the beautiful banding and grain pattern, and ease of polishing) as a decorative vessel (a lot of the canoptic jars in tombs, perfume bottles, water vases, etc were alabaster) was widespread throughout the Middle East at the time. There were several alabaster mines in ancient Egypt during the Iron Age.And this was supposed to prove what, again?

No, Lemming, your second attempt was as inpenetrable as the first. Try using paragraphs, full stops, commas, capital letters, that sort of thing. It might help if you knew the difference between "this" and "these" as well. I'm not trying to be picky, but I really am having the greatest difficulty understanding you. Birmingham's only 80 miles away; communication shouldn't be impossible....About 'apemen' - the fact is we do have fossil bones from the period you describe. Have you heard of Lucy? Would you like to explain why she isn't the transitional you say doesn't exist?[This message has been edited by Karl, 11-14-2002]

Hi Lemming,Since you're in the UK, you might want to know that the BBC have commissioned an excellent programme called 'Pyramid' which explains exactly how they were built. Here's a link to the website: BBC - 404: Not Found Kind Regards
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wrong bottle i will look up a good site with the bottle i'm on about and post it soo

only 1 but more bones have been found of dinosaurs

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Originally posted by Lemming:
only 1 but more bones have been found of dinosaurs

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Are saying we have only one ancestral human bone?------------------
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nice you have explainned alot of things but there is alot of weight to move and along the same path it would create a ridge of solid sand, stone if you likeslaves you mention slaves now where did the food and water come from to support alot of people we are talking desert miles and miles from food and water yet no bones of dead slaves or eygptions have been found around the pyramid or in a mass grave elsewhere so this means no one died building thembut you have failed to mention where they got the food and water from come on someone with your knowlege would know,1 solution is a army of atleast half the size in man power of that in which built the pyramids we are now talking alot more men alot more food and water but where will they find it