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Author Topic:   No evolution/creation debate in Europe
obvious Child
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Message 22 of 107 (442631)
12-22-2007 2:55 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Buzsaw
12-21-2007 5:34 PM


Re: Confusing mechanisms with causation
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Onesidedness tends toward censorship and ignorance. The Biblical model is not a hindrance. It's an alternative science which has certain merits and offers alternative possibilities/hypotheses.
ID should be taught in the US.
It wouldn't take much time either. Essentially a teacher would simply say to the class: "The model of Intelligent design revolves around the concept that if we don't know, God was therefore responsible."
And then the teacher would go back to what they were doing.
As for Creationism, it should be taught in religion class, where it as the same amount of evidence and validity as other religions. But creationists tend to get their proverbial panties in knots when their beliefs are placed next to other evidence free beliefs. Most forums I've been on where a religion's origin vs literal creationism thread is started rarely see any creationist traffic on that thread. But that's not surprising as Creationism can only fallaciously find validity in false dichotomies. Even here the thread about evidence for creationism is very, very, scares on actual evidence for.
Would you support the teaching of a idea which bases its truth off of the invalidity of another?
Think of it this way, assume there are 26 possible answers to a philosophy question. Someone argues that answer B is wrong, therefore answer A is automatically correct because B is wrong. They ignore that 24 other answers exist. Would you want your kids to learn that kind of reasoning? That where many answers exist, that only 2 exist and only one exists because the other is false?

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obvious Child
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Message 23 of 107 (442632)
12-22-2007 2:58 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by ringo
12-21-2007 7:14 PM


Re: Confusing mechanisms with causation
Yet unsurprisingly Creationists both here and on other forums seem genetically incapable of arguing that creation, literal that is, is true on its own merits.
Something that is true can be argued on its own merits without even acknowledging the existence of competing ideas. A false idea cannot and most of those only survive due to ignorance of people.

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Message 27 of 107 (442880)
12-22-2007 9:44 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Buzsaw
12-22-2007 8:42 PM


Re: Confusing mechanisms with causation
Cut the crap.
If your belief was true, you'd be able to argue it. Instead of you simply refuse to even address the minority of points made against your arguments and often fall back on a sentiment that you and your beliefs are victims of society.

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