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Author Topic:   No evolution/creation debate in Europe
Hyroglyphx
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Message 15 of 107 (442499)
12-21-2007 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by peracutus
12-20-2007 6:37 PM


Confusing mechanisms with causation
Did god create PC's? No Scientists did.
Okay, first of all, scientists didn't create PC's in the same way that Al Gore didn't create the internet. Secondly, the argument is that God created the scientist.
Did god tell you to use nitrate fertilizers and herbicides to increase your crop yield? No Mr. Farmer science did.
The counter-argument is that God created Mr. Farmer.
Did god tell us what genes in the DNA stand for? No that was science.
The counter-argument is that God wrote the DNA blueprint that is being interpreted by science -- and moreover, that God is science.
I think you see where this is going... You can't make asinine comments in EvC and expect everyone to glean some sort of profundity from it.
We are able to create life forms because of science. Today medicine cures lethal illnesses that killed thousands of people in the past.
Yes, it does. I assume that was some argument against the existence of God...????
God might help you to get over the loss of a beloved relative but he will not solve problems for you because after all he is just an imaginary figure that we call now and then to help us understand the unknown and help us to get rid of unwanted feelings like fear or sorrow.
The counter-argument is that God does exist. Since the (non)-existence of God is something that cannot be proven empirically in either direction, you speak only from personal experience -- or lack thereof. You don't speak for the rest of us.
Europe is having a laugh.
And? Feel free to go live in Europe.
There is no such discussion going on in Europe because of the huge amount of apparent evidence in favor of evolution.
Maybe there should be.
Make me a patriot again and start believing in facts everyone.
I can't make you stop being a fair-weathered patriot. Either be patriot, or don't.
Alright, I have a question for you. How you answer the question will greatly imply how you view the world:
If I asked what love is, from a scientific perspective, of course, what will your answer be? What is love?
You may say something along the lines of, well, studies indicate that when shown pictures of loved ones while hooked up to EKG monitors, that the patients brain light up in key areas. This indicates that love is tantamount to synapses in the brain sending signals throughout the brain, thus releasing endorphines that inundate the body, causing a warm, euphoric sensation. That is what love is
And you know, that's a decent answer, except that no one actually explained a thing, and lest of all, explained what love is and how it occurs.
Because any good scientist would not conclude that reactions in the brain equals love. Rather, a good one would deduce that this is the physical manifestation that occurs because of love.
Since you are fond of science, which we all are, but you seem to think that it provides every answer, I want to know what love is. Refrain from ANY existential or philosophical viewpoints, as they are but sophistry and illusion.

“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

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