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Author Topic:   Is science a religion?
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Message 116 of 295 (310892)
05-10-2006 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by brianforbes
05-10-2006 8:00 PM

Re: I just know
I love it how you guys mingle an insult with every post... it makes me so happy... and if you didn't notice, that's why I'm doing the jabs here and there... to keep an even playing field.
Why not choose to be polite. The first thought that comes to my mind when I see someone "calling names," however subtley, is "How old are they anyway?" In general it decreases my opinion of them as an individual and their posts in general.
There are a lot of people in this world who care nothing about facts, they only want to hear themselves talk. Everytime I see behavior like this I move them a notch closer to that group in my estimation, and pay less attention to their posts. It's as much about optimizing my time as anything, but it also saves a lot on the frustration level to simply skip certain authors.
I encourage you to be better than the next the guy.
As far as the OP, it seems to me this a simple question. Religion is a word with various meanings. Let's look at them:
1) a: Belief in and reverence for a supernatural.... (Nope)
b: A personal or insitutionalized system grounded in such.... (Nope)
2) The life or condition of a person in a religious order. (Going to go out on a limb and say probably not.)
3) A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. (Going to say no here since spiritual generally means non-tangible... feel free to look it up and disagree.)
4) A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. (For some people.)
I think it's safe to say, for some people science is a religion (based on the final definition). Some people will undoubtedly frown at that statement because of the other conotations the word brings, but it seems pretty clear to me. In fact, I suspect a lot of people would characterize science as an anti-religion... taking nothing on faith. (Technically, I don't believe this to be true but that's another philosophical discussion.) But, for someone who pursues science with zeal, it is, in a sense, a religion to them, an activity which they pursue with great enthusiasm.
There's a story I heard many years ago that I'll paraphrase. A theologian believed that as scientists climbed this "infinite" mountain of knowlege that eventually they would go over a ridge and come face to face with the theologians.
This leads to another question. What if science proves the existence of God (or let's say the evidence becomes overwhelming that the universe itself was "started" by an intelligent force). Assume that occurs. Does science then become the ultimate religion? That could make for a very interesting novel (well, in my opinion anyway).

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Message 126 of 295 (311055)
05-11-2006 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by crashfrog
05-11-2006 11:24 AM

Re: I just know
Crashfrog: Do you spend all your time nit-picking posts? Do you care at all about what the thread is actually about or do you just want to argue?
Websters 3rd definition for logic: "Valid reasoning."
That's all he's saying. Something logical "makes sense" or at least appears to be "valid reasoning." Can something appear to be logical and be false? Sure. Plenty of math proofs have been published and later flaws were found in the reasoning.
He's obviously not talking about formal mathematical methods.

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