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simple  Inactive Member |
I'll give this a try.
quote:Actually, you are wrong. The change does not apply when the spiritual element is removed! The only measurements we have are from this time. WE can't see the merged past, all we see is the physical only temporary universe. If a change happened in that, we could detect it, but that is not the case. The PO IS the change, and you cannot tell us about how the spiritual, or merged worked, and that some other type of change would be expected. Since it was not a PO universe change, but the PO is the change we were left with and it hasn't changed since what you say IN NO WAY APPLIES! It applies strictly in the fishbowl. quote:No, it was a DIFFERENT light. The light we see never changed speeds, it is what was left after the split. It was a light change not a speed change. It is a bit like the merged light was, say. 97% spiritual, and 3% physical. We were left with the 3% and it was in a new state, and new universe state at that. Like if an old computer got destroyed, even the hard drive. Yet, some experts go in, and save some of the information in there, transfer it to a disc, and store it. Years later, the disc is copied to a new computer hard drive, on board the space station. Then the information is beamed via sattelite to earth, where some make a macromedia presentation of it. Someone sees it, and decides to speak about it on the radio. The information is spoken, and travels over the radio waves. We could say it is the same information, but not the same form, or computer, etc. The split process was like this to the 1000th power, multiplied by ten trillion times a sextillion. quote:It was explained it didn't come from a spiritual star. It had become physical in the process before the merged light and space in between there and here. This meant the picture was captured in a cosmic poloroid moment, and brought toward earth in the still merged light. quote:Merged matter is eternal, as we see in heaven. Jesus had a merged body after rising from the dead. Both physical and spiritual. God lives in the city that comes to earth with us, it is also both. The sun and stars in the future new heavens will also not be in decay, but last forever. If the creation was like this originally, then, yes, the star would be both physical and spiritual. -Merged. Light did get here almost right away, yes. Not our light, but the light in the merged universe, that was a spiritual light. After the split the stars were just matter, in the natural universe, decaying, and etc. Light was just what we have now, no change in it's speed. As pointed out, the still merged light must have reached earth, or got on it's way here, recording the now already seperated, physical only star. quote:Physics has nothing to do with it. That has to do only with the PO universe. Not the merged light that then got here fast. quote:But some evidence is required if you call your claim science. You have to support the past is as the present, so far it is just assumptions it was. That is not admissible either, since it is just belief. quote:Of course it does. This universe is temporary. The bible says it will pass away and a new ones appear. They will not decay away, but last forever. You shouldn't make claims you can't back up. quote:Right, Adam saw the far stars. quote:No, you can't! Because the picture was a merged light tranfered event. You know nothing about the former light. All you could do is theorize IF it was our light, and it originated way out there, then ...blah blah.. Not applicable, and again, just imagining what if it always were the same. Why was it the same is the question? Not concluding everything using the unfoundable premise it was and will be! See what I mean, that isn't real science at all. quote:Already explained. Our light never changed since IT came to be. It was the cahnge. quote:No, light speed as we know it comes to exist. I don't think we can even say the former light had photons. can we? If so, how would oyu know? How about spiritons? Point is you do not know a thing about eternal light. Everything you say applies only to the light that was left in the PO universe, our light. quote:Already covered. How the picture was carried by the former light you have no predictive power whatsoever. quote:Hope you have the wherewithal to realize now it is you that is busted. This post rendered invisible by AdminModulous - user was suspended and tried to use a different registration to get around this. If the user is allowed back, the thread will be reopened and the posts made visible again. Once again, the curious can click the Peek Button to view the post. This message has been edited by AdminModulous, Sun, 16-April-2006 10:49 PM
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lfen Member (Idle past 4699 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
It was explained it didn't come from a spiritual star. It had become physical in the process before the merged light and space in between there and here. This meant the picture was captured in a cosmic poloroid moment, and brought toward earth in the still merged light. Ha Ha, this is funny!
Hope you have the wherewithal to realize now it is you that is busted. Stop! You're giving me convulsions!You're a troll, right? You should write your own Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, this stuff is hilarious. lfen
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tsig Member (Idle past 2931 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
Ha Ha, this is funny! Hope you have the wherewithal to realize now it is you that is busted. Stop! You're giving me convulsions!You're a troll, right? You should write your own Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, this stuff is hilarious. lfen I think simple is back. The bad thing is he is for real.
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
Hi Simple,
This account is suspended, too.
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
Hi Simple,
This is still under discussion in the Admin forum, but it appears likely that we'll decide to delete your new posts if you continue to rejoin under new member accounts because old ones have been suspended. We wouldn't make this decision lightly, we've never deleted posts before at EvC Forum, but there may be no other practical alternative. I suggest you wait out your suspension. It was originally going to be short, but now it's in the indefinite category.
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AdminModulous Administrator Posts: 897 Joined: |
Since the only person who is defending simple's POV is simple and his alias's I'm closing the thread down. Hopefully this will discourage simple from re-registering. The thread closure is temporary.
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