infinite space

I won't.It is expanding.It is expanding into nothing.The void is nothingness.

Yep, this is true, but the plain fact that the models work, the absolute vacuum model explains too much to not be right.There is a problem tho, you can never see it, because until the edge expands to occupy more of the void, and as things become observable the void remains beyond our physical perception.

Given that the nothing we talk about here literally means "no thing" or the absense of all things (including space-time). Given this meaning of nothing, you statement "the void is nothingness" basically means that the void doesn't exist.

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Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in
this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely
conceives it, wants it, and loves it.
- Mikhail Bakunin, God and the State, from The Columbian Dictionary of Quotations

...and nothing is bigger than endless nothingness... hence why the Universe will expand forever.Only one correction... space-time does not exist, that is just sloppy thinking.Please use 'energy-matter, it is both more correct and makes better sense.

I heard of this guy, Albert Eistein. He thought differently. He seemed pretty smart, too.

I see no merit in this suggestion. Space/time remains an accepted term within theoretical physics, and anyway, energy/matter is not a synonym.I'm beginning to wonder if it wouldn't be a full time job following you around and making corrections.--Percy

You guys are still having trouble pulling yourself away from giving reality to something that is simply not there.No one in this World can and will never give me a mass or a formula for time, what is time made of?Please tell me.Everything that exists has energy... no energy = no existence.

So, does the void have energy then?PE

Of itself no.The 'existence' that is drawn into it makes it appear so, but that is simply because being the only true vacuum ever it is an attractor.[This message has been edited by V-Bird, 03-24-2004]

Look anywhere [the net or books] and there isn't any mass or formula for time, this is because it is merely a tool for giving sequence to things that happen, the same applies to the other dimensions, they are just constructs.Let me try this on you...Imagine we had no time pieces, just like our early ancestors we relied on the Sun and the Seasons, we would be unable to 'order' things would we, we would remain primitive... now look to History and see the advances that go hand in hand with the further and furhter and more accurate fractioning of the day, the hours the minute and so on...Now try this...If time existed [as an entity] we should be able to find some minute constituent part, you know, a fraction of a fraction of a second and observe it, but things are not like that, time appears smooth because it is extant, there is no time that moves on or jerks like a frame of a movie... the smoothness is just the simple fact that it does not exist and the flow is merely there because you exist.

No one has ever witnessed time... they have seen time passing [the second hand of a clock] and witnessed the effect of time on the decay of things [our own] but that is NOT time you are witnessing, that is EMR as the weak force slowly changing the bindings that make matter from EMR and the strong force.Do your shoe laces up... and you tie them using 'the strong force' walk around for a day and the laces are slowly un-picked and come undone, that is 'the weak-force'... a bit simple but you get the picture.

To carry that awful analogy further...The friction that kept the lace tied for so long, well that can equate to gravity... the lace itself? that is the pure energy of EMR.

V-Birdis a nut!You speak in riddles - the stringing of words together making it nigh upon impossible to parse.

Can something which deosn't exist physically affect something that does?PE

Your problem.