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Author Topic:   Falsifying a young Universe. (re: Supernova 1987A)
commike37
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Message 151 of 948 (177629)
01-16-2005 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by wj
01-16-2005 1:37 AM


Re: Time to put up or shut up.
Actually, I've heard a very interesting proposition to explain this.
How old was Adam when he was created? 0 or many years old?
How old was the universe when it was created? 0 or billions of years old?
Of course, that's only one theory for creationists, but it does disarm this argument rather well.

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commike37
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Message 153 of 948 (177634)
01-16-2005 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by CK
01-16-2005 7:07 PM


Re: Time to put up or shut up.
Are you going to contribute this topic, or are you just going to critique my use of the English language?

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commike37
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Message 155 of 948 (177640)
01-16-2005 7:27 PM
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01-16-2005 7:21 PM


Re: Time to put up or shut up.
Sure - you think god is a liar because he creates a universe that appears old when it is not.
And where exactly is God lieing? By that logic God would've lied when he created Adam.
Maybe that bible thing is full of lies as well.
Be civil now.

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commike37
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Message 157 of 948 (177952)
01-17-2005 7:39 PM
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01-16-2005 9:34 PM


Re: Ha ha fooled you.
That's why I said it only one theory. There's another really complex cosmological one. It takes into account that if v = d / t. Both v & d constant (speed of light and distance light travels) are constant, but t is not necessarily constant (b/c of general relativity). Of course that's grossly oversimplified.

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commike37
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Message 168 of 948 (178297)
01-18-2005 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by NosyNed
01-17-2005 10:13 PM


Re: Huh?
I don't know what GR stands for, but I remember that this explanation of cosmology came from Humphrey.
Time is distorted by gravity according to Einstein's theories of relativity. Velocity of light is constant. Distance is constant. But time is not. Which means the time in which we supernova 1987A could be different.
edit: Wait! GR=general relativity (duh!)
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