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Topic: The Materialistic God: Could a Multiverse Have Evolved God?
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1362 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 16 of 28 (148725)
10-09-2004 7:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 14 by JasonChin
10-09-2004 4:03 AM
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This is an ID argument, not a creationist argument. Therefore, I'm not making the assertion that this idea accounts for the existance of the Biblical God. what's an id argument? i stated two things. one was that the bible does indeed say that god has a physical body. the other was what god is quoted as saying makes a god in genesis 3.
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JasonChin 
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Message 17 of 28 (148757)
10-10-2004 2:48 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by Beercules
10-09-2004 2:06 PM
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I don't think the laws of physics would allow this sort of thing.>> Maybe, maybe not.......that's what I wanted to hear from you guys, if any of you knew of any evidence as to why it would or wouldn't be possible. BTW, Tipler is the author of The Physics of Immortality. This fantasy deals with superhumans that would have the ability to bring the dead back to life.>> Give me a little break down on what he has to say.
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JasonChin
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what's an id argument?>> Intelligent Design. i stated two things. one was that the bible does indeed say that god has a physical body. the other was what god is quoted as saying makes a god in genesis 3.>> Gotcha, but the Bible has nothing to do with my idea.
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1485 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 19 of 28 (148762)
10-10-2004 3:10 AM
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Reply to: Message 17 by JasonChin
10-10-2004 2:48 AM
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Give me a little break down on what he has to say. As quick as possible: In the distant future, human computer technology will have developed to the point where we can accurately model the entire universe; at that point, we'll be able to retrodict backwards in time and reconstruct every human who has ever lived. We'll all live forever in the Matrix, or whatever.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1362 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 20 of 28 (148777)
10-10-2004 3:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 18 by JasonChin
10-10-2004 2:50 AM
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what's an id argument?>>
Intelligent Design. no, what argument did i make that was intelligent design? i was playing along with the thread, which is more or less id in some form.
Gotcha, but the Bible has nothing to do with my idea. we were looking for a definition of god, and i provided the opinion of one source.
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JasonChin
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No, I was saying MY argument is an ID argument. we were looking for a definition of god, and i provided the opinion of one source.>> I'm thinking a better definition of God would be one that would be universally agreed upon.........which would be a God that was, for all intents and purposes, all knowing and all powerful.
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JasonChin
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Message 22 of 28 (148787)
10-10-2004 3:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 19 by crashfrog
10-10-2004 3:10 AM
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As quick as possible: In the distant future, human computer technology will have developed to the point where we can accurately model the entire universe; at that point, we'll be able to retrodict backwards in time and reconstruct every human who has ever lived. We'll all live forever in the Matrix, or whatever.>> I know you didn't bring it up, but what does this have to do with the subject?
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1485 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 23 of 28 (148788)
10-10-2004 4:00 AM
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Reply to: Message 22 by JasonChin
10-10-2004 3:58 AM
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I know you didn't bring it up, but what does this have to do with the subject? You don't think that the power to reincarnate every human being who has ever lived into a perfect digital paradise is maybe just a little bit godlike? He was trying to answer how gods might have evolved by making reference to a theorist who predicts that we'll someday all be gods ourselves. I think it's a load of horseshit, though. Maybe you agree?
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JasonChin
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Message 24 of 28 (148795)
10-10-2004 4:12 AM
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Reply to: Message 23 by crashfrog
10-10-2004 4:00 AM
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You don't think that the power to reincarnate every human being who has ever lived into a perfect digital paradise is maybe just a little bit godlike?>> Would that really be reincarnation? That'd just be duplication. He was trying to answer how gods might have evolved by making reference to a theorist who predicts that we'll someday all be gods ourselves. I think it's a load of horseshit, though. Maybe you agree?>> I don't see how it could produce THE God.........
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1485 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 25 of 28 (148797)
10-10-2004 4:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 24 by JasonChin
10-10-2004 4:12 AM
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Would that really be reincarnation? That'd just be duplication. It'd be duplication of you at exactly the moment of your death. You won't notice the difference, theoretically. Sounds like reincarnation to me.
I don't see how it could produce THE God......... What God?
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1362 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 26 of 28 (148799)
10-10-2004 4:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 21 by JasonChin
10-10-2004 3:56 AM
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I'm thinking a better definition of God would be one that would be universally agreed upon.........which would be a God that was, for all intents and purposes, all knowing and all powerful. i was just pointing out that the bible has suprisingly lower standards for deity.
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JasonChin
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Message 27 of 28 (148814)
10-10-2004 5:05 AM
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Reply to: Message 25 by crashfrog
10-10-2004 4:13 AM
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It'd be duplication of you at exactly the moment of your death. You won't notice the difference, theoretically. Sounds like reincarnation to me.>> Sounds like a computer program tricked into thinking it's a reincarnated human to me.
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1485 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 28 of 28 (148890)
10-10-2004 12:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by JasonChin
10-10-2004 5:05 AM
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Sounds like a computer program tricked into thinking it's a reincarnated human to me. How do you know you're not one already?
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