if i am refering to myself, i don't consider myself to have a 'beginning'.....in an abstract way i am an extension or branch off of my parents
(maybe thats the 'likeness' to the father....no beginning or end
)
I remember cs lewis descibing that as possibly god's view of mankind.......a vine continually splitting off and spreading out
neat concept....leaves question about 'self' though
anyway...i'm just being goofy now
not enough sleep
hehe
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