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Melchior Inactive Member |
How does this affect the gravitational effect of the black hole, then? How do you measure how far from the center of gravity that an object outside the hole is?
Why would a star that collapses into a black hole have a greater gravitational pull as a hole than as a star?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
why do you think it does?
we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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Melchior Inactive Member |
My previous impression was that since gravitational forces are dependant on the distance to the source, compressing something would mean that any external object or individual internal parts can be closer to all parts of whatever is causing the gravitational distortion.
I haven't really spent much time on black holes, though.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Is your problem then in thinking the spiritual light could not exist? (because it's so much faster) And also could it have slowed down, (at seperation) like they did in the lab recently?
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:So could it have been different before, and what we have now is the changed stuff? Or could it have been slowed down, to it's present state? Or could it be all that's left that could exist in a physical universe, so it has to be limited? Could the change be what red shift really is in some cases?
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simple  Inactive Member |
You have made several posts, but I don't see where you have shown that this seperation could not have happened. Not that false accusations, and toddler news isn't fine too.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Why would there be a nearer star difference?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Why would there be a nearer star difference? simply because you said so. before separation: watered down speeded up lightafter separation: honeyed up slowed down light with the universe only 6200 years old by your (weaker than the Hindu Model) version the light from all stars inside 6200 light-year radius of earth is sending honeyed light, while further away all we get is the watered version. You put the analogy in the hose. This is the reality that comes out of it. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Still no comment on the Hindo Model ... must be no problems with it that you can find ...
enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
you have defined the light and the speeds
are you now introducing a second form of light that is not in the model before? another epicycle -- you're now at 4 and still haven't shown how it can solve the problems inherent in your concept because of your chosen arbitrary date. those problems do not occur for better models, like the Hindu one, which have sufficient age in them to match the observations of the universe down to teh CMB radiation from 13.7 billion light-years away. need to go over them again? refer to begining of the thread. they haven't been answered yet. enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
you still have the problem of light from stars nearer than 6200 light-years being full source light and light from further further stars being watered ....
and there are further problems to get to if you ever solve the first three ... (none yet ... keep trying) enjoy. (ps -- the Hindu Model owns this concept) we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:No, our light everywhere in our universe would be the same light. You must have misunderstood, or I was not clear, or something.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
The light we see now, I think was what was meant. Coming out of the hose still, but much slower than in a spiritual plane, yet in continueous flow. No? ahahahahaa you are asking me what you meant? enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
The light we see now, I think was what was meant. Coming out of the hose still, but much slower than in a spiritual plane, yet in continueous flow. No? But no, it could not be just the stars because the separation would have been across the board throughout all space. Any light "created" by the separation would be uniformly distributed and result in a flat CMB distribution. enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
That the CMB distribution is not flat is another problem for you.
along with the red-shift ... and others but try to handle the first three first eh? enjoy. (ps -- not a problem for the Hindu Model ...) we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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