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Author Topic:   New Hubble pictures, YEC explanations just don't make sense.
crashfrog
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Message 61 of 129 (91904)
03-11-2004 10:17 PM
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03-11-2004 10:13 PM


All that equation states is that by applying finite numbers to the equation it will herald a result giving the point where Achilles catches the turtle.
...so? The turtle only travels a finite reducing distance in each time interval. Therefore the sum of the distance intervals, though there's an infinite number of them, is finite. So Achillies catches the turtle.
Zeno is saying there is no beginning and end
And Zeno is wrong, which I have demonstrated. I don't assume that the race has an end - I proved it.

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 62 of 129 (91905)
03-11-2004 10:18 PM


Vortex theory
What a load of crap. I just read several pages of that nonsense. It never states anything. All shall be revealed if you buy the book.
What it does say is just buzzwords and poetry. Makes absolutely no sense.
Even more interesting is the fact that I cannot track down the Russian 'referees'. I went to Moscow State Technical Institutes web site and there is no such department listed for the first listed referee. I cannot find his name anywhere on that site.
Mmmm - smells like a crank to me. Wheres Alan Cresswell???

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Message 63 of 129 (91908)
03-11-2004 10:19 PM
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03-11-2004 10:18 PM


Re: Vortex theory
The internet cant track down everyone not yet anyway xx

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Message 64 of 129 (91909)
03-11-2004 10:20 PM
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03-11-2004 10:17 PM


whats the smallest distance in the world crash?

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crashfrog
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Message 65 of 129 (91911)
03-11-2004 10:24 PM
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03-11-2004 10:20 PM


whats the smallest distance in the world crash?
What does that have to do with anything?
Since you're changing the subject, can I assume you've conceded the debate?

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Message 66 of 129 (91912)
03-11-2004 10:26 PM
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03-11-2004 10:24 PM


because that is the final race that achilles will have to compete in to catch the turtle and if u cant tell me what the answer is then u cannot tell me where achilles will catch the turtle.

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 67 of 129 (91914)
03-11-2004 10:31 PM
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03-11-2004 10:19 PM


Re: Vortex theory
No but when you go to the University website and it's list of departments has no such department as that listed on the vortex theory webpage and you cannot find the name of this professor on there is suspicious.
I wouldn't say it's definitive proof BUT it certainly smacks of invention.

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crashfrog
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Message 68 of 129 (91915)
03-11-2004 10:31 PM
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03-11-2004 10:26 PM


because that is the final race that achilles will have to compete in to catch the turtle and if u cant tell me what the answer is then u cannot tell me where achilles will catch the turtle.
Mathematically, there's no such distance.
In the quantum world we live in, that distance is the Plank length. You can't tell the difference between moving less than the Plank length and not moving at all.
So which world are we talking about? In either one, Achillies catches the turtle. In fact he catches the turtle faster in the real world because eventually the turtle isn't moving at all.

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Message 69 of 129 (91918)
03-11-2004 10:46 PM
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03-11-2004 10:31 PM


Ah yah see now your starting to get it. The Human mind cannot comprehend infinity... pur say they cannot comprehend a distance below the plank distance... so in a human mind the turtle will not be moving at all... but this is only because the human mind cannot comprehend a distance below the plank....do you see

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Message 70 of 129 (91919)
03-11-2004 10:48 PM
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03-11-2004 10:31 PM


Re: Vortex theory
innocent until PROVEN guilty

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crashfrog
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Message 71 of 129 (91921)
03-11-2004 10:51 PM
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03-11-2004 10:46 PM


The Human mind cannot comprehend infinity
Um, no. That's just you who can't comprehend infinity. The rest of us don't have that problem because infinity is a very well-defined concept mathematically.
they cannot comprehend a distance below the plank distance...
It's not incomprehensible, it's just undetectable. I have no difficutly comprehending a sub-Plank distance.
do you see
Yeah. I see Achillies catch the turtle, just like math predicts.

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Message 72 of 129 (91922)
03-11-2004 10:54 PM
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03-11-2004 10:51 PM


oh i see i'm sorry your right i am a fool... if you could just tell me the number that comes just before infinity i'm sure i will comprehend it to. Cheers !

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crashfrog
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Message 73 of 129 (91929)
03-11-2004 11:11 PM
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03-11-2004 10:54 PM


if you could just tell me the number that comes just before infinity
Infinity isn't a number, dude. Therefore you won't find infinity as a part of any sequence of numbers.
See what I mean about how hard it is for you to comprehend infinity? You don't even know enough to ask the right questions.

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Message 74 of 129 (91933)
03-11-2004 11:15 PM
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03-11-2004 11:11 PM


i see your right again... so please tell me... what is infinty?

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crashfrog
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Message 75 of 129 (91934)
03-11-2004 11:18 PM
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03-11-2004 11:15 PM


what is infinty
It's the concept represented by the fact that, given any number, there exists at least one larger number.

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