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umliak
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Message 31 of 66 (171221)
12-23-2004 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by mikehager
12-23-2004 7:41 PM


Re: The same old same old.
By all means, then stop; as you have decreed.

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umliak
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Message 32 of 66 (171224)
12-23-2004 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
12-23-2004 7:30 PM


Re: I'm sorry but...
I went to the site you mentioned and checked out their "Biblical Science" references. Not one single item they mentioned was correct and most of them were either simply silly or not pertinent. There certainly was no proof of any scientific knowledge from the Bible and in fact, some pretty major misrepresentations.
He asked for evidence, and then said there is no evidence so I provided a link against his claims. And for the record the site does involve many Biblical interpretations and accounts. It even discusses the silver-cord (or, umbelica cord) of your spiritual body linking you to the physical body (or, earth womb). The silver cord is also listed in Ecclesiastes.
So while many accounts are unorthodox, I don't discredit the site entirely. But that's not the point. But for the sake of peace, I will leave him be, for now.

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mikehager
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Message 33 of 66 (171225)
12-23-2004 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by umliak
12-23-2004 7:58 PM


Re: I'm sorry but...
No, I don't think I'm finished with you. Your more recent posts at least have the limited virtue of brevity, so they are an improvement.
So, you can believe the stories on that page all you want, but you still have provided no support for your claim that any reasonable person will accept. It didn't even address the issue in question.
Will you withdraw your claim or not?

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sidelined
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Message 34 of 66 (171229)
12-23-2004 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by umliak
12-23-2004 6:54 PM


Re: The same old same old.

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umliak
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Message 35 of 66 (171298)
12-24-2004 10:53 AM


All believers must provide proof and backups to everything they say or believe in? Likewise all you have to do is deny them on the basis you ignore or don't believe in them. I didn't ask for the debate, you guys brought it up. If you don't credit my opinion, then don't post in this thread. It's that simple. I've done enough 'debating' as it is. And I'm not a reknown Bible scholar, there are studies out there to support it just like there are studies to support your beliefs (evolution). And if evolution isn't a belief why is it referred to as Darwinism?

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Buzsaw
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Message 36 of 66 (171302)
12-24-2004 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by umliak
12-24-2004 10:53 AM


Re: Evolution a Belief
And if evolution isn't a belief why is it referred to as Darwinism?
Good point, Umliak. Welcome to EvC. Take your time and post prayerfully, thoughtfully and cautiously. We're a minority in hostile territory here where a number of highly educated and intelligent counterparts are ever ready to devour when we get the least bit careless. May God bless your effort here. I'm a slow thinker and poster so I tend to hang on a thread or two at a time. Otherwise I'd lend you some support here. I'll keep an eye out and read or post when I get time. We need also to support one another in prayer, in the name of Jesus, to our heavenly Father, God of the Bible.
I also liked your stuff on the spherical earth. I believe the Hebrew has only one word for both circle and sphere, but in your references, context answers which applied. Perhaps Crashfrog should've been required to provide a documented source for his contention that this was established before the Bible said it.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

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NosyNed
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Message 37 of 66 (171305)
12-24-2004 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by umliak
12-24-2004 10:53 AM


Backup of your claims

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sidelined
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Message 38 of 66 (171306)
12-24-2004 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by umliak
12-24-2004 10:53 AM



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ramoss
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Message 39 of 66 (171434)
12-25-2004 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by umliak
12-22-2004 11:02 PM


Re: The same old same old.
Pray tell, what "archelogical' finds demonstrate that the bible to be 100% accurate?? While some things in the bible probably ARE somewhat accurate, just because one piece of a story is doesn't mean the story is
true.
We know the civil war happened. Gone with the Wind mentions the civil war, THerefore, Scarlett O'hare was a real person.. (ya right).
I mean, look at the mismash some 'archelogists' recently did. Two sets of them found first century wine urns at two different sites in galielee at about the same time, and both groups declared they found the site of Jesus's first miracle. Mind you , these wine jugs are very very common. No reason to associate these wine jugs with a set of myths at all.

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ramoss
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Message 40 of 66 (171435)
12-25-2004 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by umliak
12-22-2004 11:02 PM


Re: The same old same old.
Pray tell, what "archelogical' finds demonstrate that the bible to be 100% accurate?? While some things in the bible probably ARE somewhat accurate, just because one piece of a story is doesn't mean the story is
true.
We know the civil war happened. Gone with the Wind mentions the civil war, THerefore, Scarlett O'hare was a real person.. (ya right).
I mean, look at the mismash some 'archelogists' recently did. Two sets of them found first century wine urns at two different sites in galielee at about the same time, and both groups declared they found the site of Jesus's first miracle. Mind you , these wine jugs are very very common. No reason to associate these wine jugs with a set of myths at all.

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ramoss
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Message 41 of 66 (171439)
12-25-2004 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Buzsaw
12-24-2004 11:52 AM


Re: Evolution a Belief
The people who refer to evolution as 'darwinism' are people who are trying to discredit evolution.

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AdminJar
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Message 42 of 66 (171459)
12-25-2004 5:50 PM


TOPIC folk.
The topic is "Proof and analysis of Biblical end time accuracey". Evolution has nothing to do with that. Let's try to move back towards the topic.

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umliak
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Message 43 of 66 (171484)
12-25-2004 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by AdminJar
12-25-2004 5:50 PM


Re: TOPIC folk.
Originally posted by AdminJar:
The topic is "Proof and analysis of Biblical end time accuracey". Evolution has nothing to do with that. Let's try to move back towards the topic.
Thank, this is my point. I could very easily provide proof, such as the second book of Esdras when God is revealing things to him, he speaks at one point of the earth's plates that move about. This is a very recent discovery, and yet the second book of Esdras (Apocrypha, should have been included in the Bible, but was removed for some reason; Lord knows why) tells of this, as well as answers many other things that I could go on listening, but I see no reason why I should have to support their ruthless trashing of the thread by agreeing to compromise the very topic; or point of me posting this.
I fail to see any place in the License Agreement that I agreed to when registering to the forum that requires me to act as a slave to irrelevant things for those looking to misguide a topic.

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umliak
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Message 44 of 66 (171487)
12-25-2004 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by NosyNed
12-24-2004 11:55 AM


Re: Backup of your claims

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Coragyps
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Message 45 of 66 (171494)
12-25-2004 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by umliak
12-25-2004 9:20 PM


Re: TOPIC folk.
he speaks at one point of the earth's plates that move about. This is a very recent discovery, and yet the second book of Esdras (Apocrypha, should have been included in the Bible, but was removed for some reason; Lord knows why) tells of this
I'm calling you on this. I sure find nothing of the sort at BibleNet - http://www.biblenet.net/library/apocrypha/?s= - when I search for "earth" or "plates". Chapter & verse, please.

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