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coffee_addict
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Message 37 of 49 (206478)
05-09-2005 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by chark
05-09-2005 12:13 PM


Re: back to energy and gravity
chark writes:
That is all of the light, heat, and radiation energy in the universe (or gravitational vicinity) that is throwing off calculations.
The problem with this is that there aren't enough light around to account for the missing mass. As was pointed out earlier, fusion in a star convert very little mass into a lot of energy, relatively.
I believe it does but we can not effectively measure it since one atom contains in the upper billions of joules of energy and since we can not contain large enough amounts of energy to equal the corresponding amount of matter (according to E=mc2)in a large enough quanity to measure its gravity
If we invent a measuring instrument so sensitive that we can measure the affect a very massive object has on light, we can effectively measure how much gravity light has.
This is because F = Gm1m2/r^2
Normally, we only put the mass of the object into account. However, if we have a instrument sensitive enough, we can also put light into account.

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Message 39 of 49 (206616)
05-09-2005 9:51 PM
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05-09-2005 9:44 PM


Re: back to energy and gravity
Current estimates reveal that about 25-30% of the universe is made of the visible matter, about 30-35% is made of dark matter, and about 60-65%ish is made of dark energy.
Some people may disagree whether it is 30 or 30.5 or whatever, but as you can see visible matter only make up a tiny portion of our universe.
Astronomers in the early 20th century estimated that invisible stuff they called dark matter occupied up to 90% of our galaxy. If you want, I can give a more detailed explanation to how astronomers came up with these calculations.
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Message 42 of 49 (206841)
05-10-2005 7:00 PM
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05-10-2005 11:24 AM


Re: back to energy and gravity
Everything is a rough estimate.

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Message 44 of 49 (206886)
05-10-2005 10:24 PM
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05-10-2005 9:07 PM


Re: back to energy and gravity
You're probably right. It's been a while since I checked the info.
Are machos considered baryonic or non-baryonic matter?

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