Big Bang...How Did it Happen?

Welcome to EvC forum sauverider.There is a lot to learn here if you are open to it. I suggest that you start off by reading the forum guidelines. One thing that may be required of you is to back up any assertions you make.Another thing is that you should not pass other peoples ideas off as your own. It doesn't appear at first glance like you actually cut and pasted from anywhere. It does however appear that you simply retyped in your own words.A real, real good idea is not to expound on things that you don't know very much about. There are a number of practising scientists that are regulars here. You may get called on things and be expected to explain yourself. It is apparent from this inaugural post that you don't know very much about the topic here.Another good idea is to watch out for very misleading "information" presented by various creationist web sites. You will find the material very hard to defend.I'd also suggest that taking on the cosmology of the big bang is biting off a lot. Unless that is you have advanced degrees in mathematics and/or physics. As noted it is apparent that you don't.

Suaverider, no one said that. What is true is that some people know more than you do. That doesn't mean smarter just more knowlegable. That is to be expected since they have spent years studying the area.Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a lot of knowledge to be able to understand the details. I can't keep up with all the Eta is saying cause he is the expert. I do know enough physics (I have a BSc in it) to understand parts of what he is saying.Suave, you have been lied to. You have posted (perhaps reworded when you typed it) stuff that is not your own thinking. You actually do not understand what is being said. The source you used has had a chance to correct those things which they have posted. The fact that they have not makes them liars.Eta, is being good enough to go over this material and, within the time constraints he has, try to help you to see how bad it is.If you choose to ignore this opportunity to learn then you are demonstarting that you have some deficiencies. Let's see if you can step up to the plate.You were warned earlier about taking on this subject. After my four years of math and physics there are big areas that I can't totally wrap my head around. That is why I like reading sources where experts argue it out. It helps me get an idea of how solidly based the ideas are.It will come down, for some parts of this, to believing what you are told. You will have to pick who to believe. I'm sorry that it is hard for you to do. If you want help in figuring out how to pick we can discuss that in another thread.A lot of this material is rather mind-boggling indeed. That doesn't make it wrong. I've forgotten again who said "The universe is not only queerer than we imagine, it is queerer than we can imagine."

Here, I'd suggest that even if the wording is not identical taking others material and not acknowledging that is equivalent to plagerism and is dishonest.I'll do a quick check on this too. If it is as similar to some source as your first post was it had better be the last dishonest post you make. The next one will get you suspended.Added by edit:
Blog et actualits en France et dans le monde
is the source of this material
Any further dishonesty will earn you a suspension.In addition, it is off topic, continued willfull topic hoping will also earn you a suspension.You are also required to support your assertions. You don't seem to be doing that. Continuation of such behaviour and --- a suspension.Do you notice the thread running through this?This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 08-28-2004 02:04 AM

Got that, thanks, eta.Let's try to stay on topic no matter what suave steals from somewhere. Ok?

Yes, but that is only part of it.You needn't bother posting it at all unless you understand it and are able to support it in ongoing discussion. You are posting material that has been shown to be hogwash many times before. You have no idea what the sites you are copying are talking about (and, in many cases, neither do they ).It is up to you to make the points. You don't even have to offer your sources unless asked. However, if you simple copy stuff that you don't understand and can't or won't defend you are not debating in good faith.

and the little raw text button at the bottom of all the posts will show you what someone entered to produce what you see on the page.

If this direction continues the thread will have to be eunthenized.