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Chiroptera
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Message 15 of 110 (252191)
10-16-2005 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by tsig
10-16-2005 7:54 AM


Re: Laughing
Bigfoot is plausible.
There is physical evidence (dubious as it may be) for bigfoot.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 50 of 110 (253510)
10-20-2005 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by tsig
10-20-2005 7:09 PM


Re: Danger, Danger Will Robinson
It is rare that a person's beliefs are a bunch of interchangeable modules that can be individually lifted out and replaced.
As a former fundamentalist, I can attest that often a person's entire set of beliefs are intertwined and interconnected, and one cannot simply change one "small part" of her beliefs without ripping huge holes in everything else.
For a Christian literalist, it is not as simple as simply believing that Genesis is literal history and then believing that Genesis is metaphor. To go from one belief to another can be the intellectual and emotional equivalent of a stroke; one is left having to learn how to move all over again.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 52 of 110 (253537)
10-20-2005 8:36 PM
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10-20-2005 7:40 PM


Re: Danger, Danger Will Robinson
Seeing some people react against clear and indisputable fact does remind me of the Star Trek episode where they blow the brains out of a super computer with the phrase, "This sentence is a lie."

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Chiroptera
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Message 61 of 110 (253841)
10-21-2005 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Larni
10-21-2005 9:57 AM


Re: Is it just me?
quote:
America could be a far greater source of scientific and human progress if it devoted less energy to religion and more to pushing forwards.
We only have this problem because you sent these clowns here 350 years ago. Why don't you do us a favor and take a few back?

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 72 of 110 (255657)
10-30-2005 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by bkelly
10-30-2005 3:10 PM


Re: The unanswered questions
quote:
On the other hand, when faced with difficult questions, the IDers tend to ignore the question and pretend they have earned some credit.
I think the problem, bkelly, is that those who try to defend ID here don't understand statistics, biology, or even ID. In fact, their understanding of these subjects are so bad that they cannot understand that their arguments are bad, or why; they think their arguments are so good that the only reason we evolutionists aren't persuaded by them is that our minds must be closed.
I don't think the IDists are intentionally pretending. I think that they really believe that they are killing us with their iron-clad logic.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 101 of 110 (313940)
05-20-2006 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by mr_matrix
05-20-2006 3:35 PM


Re: A cell?? -- who said
quote:
...then athiests failed to deny God.
If you sincerely believe in God, then why do you care whether atheists "deny God" (whatever that means)?

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

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Chiroptera
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Message 103 of 110 (313944)
05-20-2006 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by mr_matrix
05-20-2006 4:07 PM


Re: A cell?? -- who said
quote:
AS I said, I dont have to worry myself since athiests are unable to fully deny or disprove the existance of God.
Actually, it is usually the theistically minded that seem so concerned to prove to the atheists that God exists. Most of the atheists I know simply point out that the "proofs" for God's alleged existence are unconvincing and mostly want to be left alone.

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

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