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Author Topic:   Anglo-Israelitism , End Times and the misuse of scripture
Phat
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Message 5 of 61 (921881)
02-03-2025 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by PaulK
02-03-2025 1:36 AM


Anglo-Israelitism 101
What are Anglo-Israelites?

When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat

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Phat
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Message 6 of 61 (921883)
02-03-2025 11:44 AM
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02-03-2025 7:47 AM


Re: Thread Moved from Coffee House Forum
I hope this topic is limited to Faith and beliefs backed by scripture and that politics and evolution are kept to a minimum. Candle3 always drags PRATTS regarding evolution vs. Creation into his arguments. If he wants to share his personal faith and beliefs, I'm fine with that and will participate, but if he gets off on the evolution arguments that he does not understand, it will muddy the water.

When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat

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Phat
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Message 9 of 61 (921888)
02-03-2025 2:55 PM
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02-03-2025 12:15 PM


Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Taq writes:
Modern genetics has pretty much put an end to this old conspiracy theory. From what I can tell, it's pretty similar to Flat Earth theories in both denialism and ridiculousness.
Well I've never heard about it in any church that I have attended or been associated with.
I have been taught that my own personal relationship and inner conscience with God is more important and solid than anything that any Pastor says...though I have not always lived it. We can discuss some End Times theology and popular interpretations of scripture, though I anticipate that most of you will disagree with the interpretations.

When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat

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Phat
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Message 14 of 61 (921902)
02-04-2025 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Candle3
02-04-2025 9:43 AM


Light A Candle And Don't Hide It Under Dogmatic Assertions
OK, Candle3. Here we go.
  • Endlessly quoting scripture, (Especially the OT) does not impress your audience here at EvC, though I imagine it reinforces your confidence in your beliefs. It is evident to me that you learn this stuff solely through the teachings of your church. Do you expect to convert anyone?
  • I advise dropping the whole evolution/creationism argument. If you must speak on the matter, focus on glorifying the Creator as you understand Him and leave the evolution arguments alone. They are PRATTS to this audience. (Points Refuted A Thousand Times)
    Feel free to argue (or discuss) God's character through Jesus Christ with me. Jesus is the focal point of the entire Bible (for Believers) and is really the only important point of Christianity.
    Candle3:
    ...you will never learn. Your ego will prevent you from
    seeing the truth, or at least admitting it.

    All of us have some degree of an Ego. The Truth is living and active. What would you say that this "Truth" is?

    When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
    God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter
    We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
    Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat

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    Phat
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    Message 37 of 61 (921940)
    02-05-2025 11:39 PM
    Reply to: Message 12 by PaulK
    02-03-2025 4:47 PM


    Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
    Is this the topic you mean? Message 1
    If so, let's revisit it. I will keep Last Day's discussion there, though you have the advantage in a strict Bible Study Forum as opposed to Faith & Belief. My angle is not based on the * evidence-based * arguments, of which I question some. A nonbeliever cannot make a judgment on a faith-based argument.
    The link to my summation is here. Message 1749

    When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
    God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter
    We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
    Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat

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    Phat
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    Message 45 of 61 (921959)
    02-06-2025 2:10 PM
    Reply to: Message 40 by Percy
    02-06-2025 7:49 AM


    Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
    Percy writes:
    You're a non-believer of all religions and sects but one, so you do it all the time.
    I am a monotheist. Truth is not relative. Your point would have merit if (as an example) all 300 million "gods" were invented by humans. I believe that one is not. We were created. Perhaps not on a planetary level but on a cosmological level. One God. Many imitators. I never was impressed by a relativistic argument.
    Even non believers have to reference my "god" to show me my hypocrisy.

    When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
    God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter
    We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
    Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat

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