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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Paulk, you will never learn. Your ego will prevent you from
seeing the truth, or at least admitting it. Read in Genesis 48 about Joseph's two son, Ephraim (GreatBritain-the company of nations) and Manasseh (the single great nation- U.S.) This chapter says nothing about the other sons of Jacob(Israel). They are: Reuben; Simeon; Levi; Judah (father of the Jews); Zebulon; Issachar; Dan; Gad; Asher; Naphtali; and, Benjamin. Notice what Israel says to Joseph and his two sons. V. 16 "The Angel who has redeemed me from all evil, Bless the lads;Let my name (Israel) be named upon them... And let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth." He did not say let their uncle's name (Judah) be named onthem. They are not Jews. Whose descendants are to become that numerous seed, whichshall number into the hundreds of millions? Ephraim and Manasseh, not Judah. Israel placed his ight hand on Ephraim. Joseph moved Israel'sright hand to Manasseh, the oldest. Israel moved it back. Speaking of Manasseh in v. 19, Israel said of Manasseh "Iknow, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great; but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his descendants shall become a multitude (company) of nations. These two brothers who received the very name Israel, arenot Jews. It is ridiculous to think so. They are to become their own people. The name Israel is thenational name of their descendants. And their descendants we're never Jews. Israel said to Joseph in v.22 "Moreover I have given to you oneportion above your brothers,..." Two tribes came from Joseph Leviticus tells us that because of idolatry and Sabbathbreaking the blessing were withheld from the descendants for 2520 years, which expired around 1800 when Britain became the world's most powerful nation. The sun always shine on one of their company of nations. Manasseh separated from GB and became the single greatnation. Amos 9:9 states that Israel (our forefathers) would be siftedthrough many nations; yet, not one grain shall fall to the earth Not all Americans are of the stock of Manasseh, but many are. However, Israel has always absorbed Gentiles living in theirland.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Phat, is something wrong with you? Paulk is the one who
brought this subject on here. He did not not get Israelites or Jews from a comic book. To know who they are, one must go to the Bible. You should know this! You advise dropping the whole creative/evolution debate. My issue with you on this matter is that seem to straddle thefence. You don't seem to have a complete understanding of exactly what God did or didn't do.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Paulk, you put forth you evidence for why all Israelites are
Jews. If you can't do this, I will understand. Don't just make anassertion, back it up. As for the "abomination of desolation spoken of in Daniel 8Read this: Matthew 24:15 "Therefore when you see the abomination ofdesolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place.... The abomination of desolation had not occurred by thetime of Jesus. It is an end time occurrence. Perhaps, you should read both Daniel 8 and Matthew 24. Jesus did not believe you verdict.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Paulk, you have no idea what Daniel 8 is about.
Prove the Israelites are not who I say they are. Or, admitthat you can't.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Taq, no one care about what you think of the Bible.
You are still trying to figure out how life came from non-life You are on the horns of a dilemma.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Taq, you have no idea how life came from non-life.
I know that you don't. You have a belief (secular faith) that it happened by chance.But, unless you can prove it, it ain't worth a dime. Evolutionists like to say that creationists live in a fairy tale, butactually it is the evolutionists that believe in fairy tales. Create life for me and I will deny creation.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Paulk, I have provided evidence. It is not my fault that you do
not know the Bible, or understand it.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
AZ, you wrote:
"Blowing smoke. He lost the debate about Israelites so he'sblowing smoke to cover that up." "Not good, Candle(x). Your lack of intellect is showing, again." Good try. I lost nothing. Debating Paulk is like debating aseventh grader. He still reads comic books. You know that I know evolution is a religion. You havefaith that life began by coming from non-life. You big bad evolutionists don't like to be questioned aboutyour ignorance, because it shows how much you accept by faith. Punctuated equilibrium is another theory because you allclearly understand that the fossils do not support evolution. The best support for creation are dinosaurs. They contain blood cells, collagen, soft tissue and C-14. Soft tissue and C-14 are even found in fragments of dinobone. You people want me to talk to you the way that you talk tome and creationists. Okay.
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Taq, any proof of how life started yet. Or are you burying
your hand in the sand?
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Candle3 Member Posts: 985 Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Percy, George Washington used to be a courier for General
Braddock during the French and Indian war. Couriers were killed by the Indians pretty quickly. In fact,all but one was killed. George Washington had several horses shot out from underhim, and one of his coats had four bullet holes in it. He had fragments of a bullet in his hair. Before Washington became President he came back to thearea. An elderly Indian just had to see this man; so, he had some braves to take him. The Indian was an expert marksman. He had shot thecourier (Washington) 17 times. He was sure of this. He told the other braves to stop even shooting at him. The old Indian stated that he just had to see the man whowas protected by the "great presence from above." God had promised that Manasseh's descendants wouldbecome a great nation. There is no power in the universe that could prevent this from coming to fruition. During the Gulf war Iraq fired missiles at Israel. Witness havestated that they had seen missiles miraculously change course and land in the sea. God stood with England when Germany was sending theirmight against them. Day and night they rained bombs and missiles down on them. France folded in no time. God was protecting them. But that protecting is nearing its end. The God of the Bible is the only God. God will give those whoworship other gods their opportunity to become members of His family. They will get to know Him. But during this present age theydo not know Him. God is no respecter of persons. All in their pre-appointedtimes will get to know Him. There are some however who will never receive eternal life.These include the incorrigibly wicked; those who deliberately reject Him; and, those who know that He exists but for some reason fight against Him.
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