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Author Topic:   Anglo-Israelitism , End Times and the misuse of scripture
Candle3
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Message 13 of 61 (921901)
02-04-2025 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by PaulK
02-03-2025 4:47 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Paulk, you will never learn. Your ego will prevent you from
seeing the truth, or at least admitting it.
Read in Genesis 48 about Joseph's two son, Ephraim (Great
Britain-the company of nations) and Manasseh (the single
great nation- U.S.)
This chapter says nothing about the other sons of Jacob
(Israel). They are: Reuben; Simeon; Levi; Judah (father of the
Jews); Zebulon; Issachar; Dan; Gad; Asher; Naphtali;
and, Benjamin.
Notice what Israel says to Joseph and his two sons. V. 16
"The Angel who has redeemed me from all evil, Bless the lads;
Let my name (Israel) be named upon them... And let them
grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth."
He did not say let their uncle's name (Judah) be named on
them. They are not Jews.
Whose descendants are to become that numerous seed, which
shall number into the hundreds of millions?
Ephraim and Manasseh, not Judah.
Israel placed his ight hand on Ephraim. Joseph moved Israel's
right hand to Manasseh, the oldest. Israel moved it back.
Speaking of Manasseh in v. 19, Israel said of Manasseh "I
know, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he
also shall be great; but truly his younger brother shall be
greater than he, and his descendants shall become a
multitude (company) of nations.
These two brothers who received the very name Israel, are
not Jews. It is ridiculous to think so.
They are to become their own people. The name Israel is the
national name of their descendants. And their descendants
we're never Jews.
Israel said to Joseph in v.22 "Moreover I have given to you one
portion above your brothers,..."
Two tribes came from Joseph
Leviticus tells us that because of idolatry and Sabbath
breaking the blessing were withheld from the descendants
for 2520 years, which expired around 1800 when Britain
became the world's most powerful nation. The sun always
shine on one of their company of nations.
Manasseh separated from GB and became the single great
nation.
Amos 9:9 states that Israel (our forefathers) would be sifted
through many nations; yet, not one grain shall fall to the earth
Not all Americans are of the stock of Manasseh, but many are.
However, Israel has always absorbed Gentiles living in their
land.

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Message 16 of 61 (921910)
02-04-2025 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
02-04-2025 10:48 AM


Re: Light A Candle And Don't Hide It Under Dogmatic Assertions
Phat, is something wrong with you? Paulk is the one who
brought this subject on here.
He did not not get Israelites or Jews from a comic book.
To know who they are, one must go to the Bible.
You should know this!
You advise dropping the whole creative/evolution debate.
My issue with you on this matter is that seem to straddle the
fence. You don't seem to have a complete understanding of
exactly what God did or didn't do.

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Message 18 of 61 (921912)
02-04-2025 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by PaulK
02-04-2025 2:30 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Paulk, you put forth you evidence for why all Israelites are
Jews.
If you can't do this, I will understand. Don't just make an
assertion, back it up.
As for the "abomination of desolation spoken of in Daniel 8
Read this:
Matthew 24:15 "Therefore when you see the abomination of
desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the
holy place....
The abomination of desolation had not occurred by the
time of Jesus. It is an end time occurrence.
Perhaps, you should read both Daniel 8 and Matthew 24.
Jesus did not believe you verdict.

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Message 21 of 61 (921915)
02-04-2025 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by PaulK
02-04-2025 3:24 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Paulk, you have no idea what Daniel 8 is about.
Prove the Israelites are not who I say they are. Or, admit
that you can't.

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Message 23 of 61 (921917)
02-04-2025 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Taq
02-04-2025 3:30 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Taq, no one care about what you think of the Bible.
You are still trying to figure out how life came from non-life
You are on the horns of a dilemma.

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Message 26 of 61 (921920)
02-04-2025 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Taq
02-04-2025 4:10 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Taq, you have no idea how life came from non-life.
I know that you don't.
You have a belief (secular faith) that it happened by chance.
But, unless you can prove it, it ain't worth a dime.
Evolutionists like to say that creationists live in a fairy tale, but
actually it is the evolutionists that believe in fairy tales.
Create life for me and I will deny creation.

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Message 27 of 61 (921921)
02-04-2025 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by PaulK
02-04-2025 4:11 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Paulk, I have provided evidence. It is not my fault that you do
not know the Bible, or understand it.

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Message 33 of 61 (921932)
02-05-2025 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by AZPaul3
02-04-2025 5:45 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
AZ, you wrote:
"Blowing smoke. He lost the debate about Israelites so he's
blowing smoke to cover that up."

"Not good, Candle(x). Your lack of intellect is showing, again."
Good try. I lost nothing. Debating Paulk is like debating a
seventh grader. He still reads comic books.
You know that I know evolution is a religion. You have
faith that life began by coming from non-life.
You big bad evolutionists don't like to be questioned about
your ignorance, because it shows how much you accept
by faith.
Punctuated equilibrium is another theory because you all
clearly understand that the fossils do not support evolution.
The best support for creation are dinosaurs.
They contain blood cells, collagen, soft tissue and C-14.
Soft tissue and C-14 are even found in fragments of dino
bone.
You people want me to talk to you the way that you talk to
me and creationists. Okay.

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Message 34 of 61 (921933)
02-05-2025 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Taq
02-04-2025 6:36 PM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Taq, any proof of how life started yet. Or are you burying
your hand in the sand?

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Message 41 of 61 (921951)
02-06-2025 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Percy
02-06-2025 7:49 AM


Re: Anglo-Israelitism debunked. Now for the End Times
Percy, George Washington used to be a courier for General
Braddock during the French and Indian war.
Couriers were killed by the Indians pretty quickly. In fact,
all but one was killed.
George Washington had several horses shot out from under
him, and one of his coats had four bullet holes in it. He had
fragments of a bullet in his hair.
Before Washington became President he came back to the
area. An elderly Indian just had to see this man; so, he had
some braves to take him.
The Indian was an expert marksman. He had shot the
courier (Washington) 17 times. He was sure of this. He
told the other braves to stop even shooting at him.
The old Indian stated that he just had to see the man who
was protected by the "great presence from above."
God had promised that Manasseh's descendants would
become a great nation. There is no power in the universe
that could prevent this from coming to fruition.
During the Gulf war Iraq fired missiles at Israel. Witness have
stated that they had seen missiles miraculously change
course and land in the sea.
God stood with England when Germany was sending their
might against them. Day and night they rained bombs and
missiles down on them. France folded in no time. God was
protecting them.
But that protecting is nearing its end.
The God of the Bible is the only God. God will give those who
worship other gods their opportunity to become members of
His family.
They will get to know Him. But during this present age they
do not know Him.
God is no respecter of persons. All in their pre-appointed
times will get to know Him.
There are some however who will never receive eternal life.
These include the incorrigibly wicked; those who deliberately
reject Him; and, those who know that He exists but for some
reason fight against Him.

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