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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
Perhaps you would like to outline this so called “proof” here, so we have something to discuss which doesn’t rely on going to your website.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: That’s well short of an outline. There’s not even a hint of how such a “proof” could possibly work.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
So, in other words it’s not a proof at all. And some of it is pretty silly. It is in no way surprising that 1 x 3 =3 or that 2 x 3 =6, for instance.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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quote: It really doesn’t. And if you were any sort of a mathematician you could show how it really works (“why” is just a consequence of using base 10 notation as you should know)
quote: No, it does not.
quote: To be honest, that would be all of it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: It should also be noted that you ignored the mathematical points I made at the start of my post. It also should be noted that the “proof” is remarkably short of reasoning to support its claims. Nevertheless I shall do better than you have managed and point out some facts. Let us start with the fact that the “triple numbers” are not special. Any multiple of 3 must have a digital root of 3, 6 or 9 - so long as we use base 10 notation. The proof is easy enough that I’ll leave it to you. If you used base 12 notation - and since you think a clock face is important for some reason - you really should - things don’t work out for you. 444 would have a digital root of 1, for instance. So why should a quirk of base 10 notation be taken as proving anything of significance?
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: Then you shouldn’t be using the clock face since that is derived from humans using base 12.
quote: That’s ultimately a consequence of 9 preceding 10. That is why it works in base 10. If you really think you have the mathematical skills to tackle it then do so - mathematically. That is the only correct way.
quote: It certainly doesn’t - jumping to the conclusions you want does not explain it at all, let alone convincingly. Edited by PaulK, .
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: The decision to use the arms and the torso while neglecting the head and the legs is so obviously arbitrary that the whole thing is worthless. Playing games without even having consistent rules is no way to prove anything. (See also the number of planets. In an attempt to get a more consistent definition of “planet” Pluto was demoted to a “dwarf planetoid” leaving our solar system with only 8 planets.)
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: The falsely-named “Proof” may assert that, but it doesn’t give any reason to believe that it’s true. Indeed, since base 10 is not in any way fundamental, features of base 10 notation are irrelevant to the claim. Likewise the number of planets in our solar system - even if it could be established as 9, which it can’t - is just a local feature, of no significance at the scale of the Universe.
quote: I can’t see anything of value in the falsely-named “Proof”. The author clearly does not know what a mathematical proof is, does not understand how to reason or present a coherent case (e.g. the assertion that “there are no extraterrestrial beings” is inserted without any support for the claim or any explanation of how it could be relevant). Not that the rest is much better. And I will point out that I am being very polite about this. It really is hopelessly bad.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: Can you please stop calling it “the Proof” since it is no such thing. And it doesn’t count the legs at all. The head may be essential but it is at 12 which isn’t counted either.
quote: No they could not do the same for Venus because they would have no justification for singling out Venus. And they did so under the authority of the International Astronomical Union.
quote: i don’t believe that I did miss it. It’s just more arbitrary nonsense. Please at least tell me that you’ve taken onboard the fact that the whole “triple numbers” thing is meaningless, simply a quirk of base 10 notation. Because if you haven’t learned that much the whole discussion is a waste of time.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: Wrong. I simply don’t believe your unsupported assertions about the “why” of things. The “why” multiples of 3 and 9 have the properties they do in decimal notation is because it is decimal notation. There’s no reason to think that there is anything deeper. Your unsupported assertions are just opinions and have no argumentative force. That is one reason why you don’t have anything like a proof.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: Your belief does not change the truth that your so-called “Proof” is nothing of the sort.
quote: I’m sorry I wasted my time reviewing your “Proof” as you clearly had no interest in the outcome. The fact is that it shows none of these things. For instance going back to the mathematics - rather important to a so-called “mathematical proof” - the “unique nature” of the number 9 is not fundamental at all, but a simple consequence of using base 10.
quote: Romans 5:6 in no way validates your misuse of the clock face.
quote: Unless you are planning torture or brainwashing I can’t be made to believe the ridiculous nonsense you call a “Proof”.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
The so-called proof plays some games with numbers. That in no way defeats the criticisms.
I’m sorry that you had no interest in a genuine review of your claims. But that’s your problem. Stay wrapped up in your errors and your pride all you like. It’s hardly a good advertisement for Christianity.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
quote: The Drivel (a more accurate term than “Proof”) doesn’t really do that, as you really ought to know,
quote: It certainly does not but I suppose you don’t expect anyone to read it and find that out. Your lack of respect for what you call “The Word of God” is another count against you.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
Of course the number games work better as a proof of Hinduism.
Why else would they rely on a notation invented by Hindus - and unknown to the authors of the books of the Bible? Clearly it demonstrates the supremacy of the Hindu Trimurti. Can you not see the similarity of the Om symbol to the numeral “3”? Does Shiva not have his third eye open, does he not wield a trident? (Which just goes to show how worthless these arguments are)
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PaulK Member Posts: 18111 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
I see. You didn’t invent silly nonsense about the Hindu God. Obviously you are a devout Hindu trying to make Christianity look silly.
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