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Message 48 of 314 (921500)
01-13-2025 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by KING IYK
01-12-2025 4:44 PM


Numerology Is Natural
7 x 20 = 140; 1 + 4 + 0 = 5;
7 x 30 = 210; 2 + 1 + 0 = 3;
7 x 40 = 280; 2 + 8 + 0 = 10;
Of the four digits (1, 5, 3, 0) all appear in the known eigenvalues of the Higgs boson, aka The God Particle, which are determined by the secular universe and are a sign from a secular universe.
Also, the quantities 3, 5 and 10 are sacred to the ancient ancestors of the Pythagoreans and were known well before Abraham imagined his (your) god.
The Proof reveals why that is with convincing, coherent coincidences in all 7 segments.
No. No it doesn’t.

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Message 68 of 314 (921536)
01-15-2025 5:18 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by KING IYK
01-15-2025 3:47 AM


The TRVTH
The only TRVTH revealed in your adventures in numerology is that you have a vivid imagination as well as little training or experience in logic and critical thinking.
You are wasting the only intellect you will ever experience in this universe on believing in fantasies. A total waste of electrons and the emergent property of consciousness.

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Message 79 of 314 (921547)
01-15-2025 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by KING IYK
01-15-2025 2:44 PM


Re: The TRVTH
However, you find into impossible to highlight the flaw in the proof.
What proof? I see no proof. I see a statement of faith.
Your emotional wannabees do not constitute any proof. You present nothing but your personal interpretation of the cosmic meanings of strings of numbers conceived in the minds of men. You show nothing that proves god, nothing that shows divinity.
Like Louis Farrakhan's, your numerology is self-serving, self-devised, deceitful and false.
[9] There, in the middle of this mall is the Washington Monument, 555 feet high. But if we put a 1 in front of that 555 feet, we get 1555, the year that our first fathers landed on the shores of Jamestown, Virginia as slaves. In the background is the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorial, each one of these monuments is 19 feet high.
[10] Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth president. Thomas Jefferson, the third president, and 16 and 3 make 19 again. What is so deep about this number 19? Why are we standing on the Capitol steps today? That number 19! When you have a nine, you have a womb that is pregnant. And when you have a one standing by the nine, it means that there’s something secret that has to be unfolded.
--Source
Like Farrakhan's, your attempt to hold numerology as devine fails. You show no evidence that numbers of any sort are any more than the intellectual conjures of men as mathematical tools. 666 is a number not an evil power.
The divinity you see is only the emotions within your own head. They do not transcend that material boundary. You have no evidence, no matter how small, that such a thing as "devine" can even exist outside your imagination, outside your fantasies.
In humans, an insistence that your fantasy world is real and that you and all others must hear, obey and believe is considered a mental defect requiring not just professional treatment but public vigilance notice and behavior monitoring. Get some help.

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Message 87 of 314 (921570)
01-16-2025 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by KING IYK
01-16-2025 11:20 AM


Bible Go Poof!
The Holy Trinity:
A single God existing as three identical entities. In the concept of The Trinity, Three and One are the same.
We can accept this as a religious concept, but NOT as fact. The reality appears to be quite different. There doesn’t appear to be anything in this universe that evidences a supernatural let alone your specific flavors of deity.
The recurring sequence 3 6 9 is magnificent for its representation of
The Truth: THE HOLY TRINITY !!! 3 3 3
Yes. Religious numerology. We know. Somehow this sequence 3 6 9 is repackaged as 3 3 3 which you chose to emotionally represent as your god. No divinity creation evident or necessary. As human constructs meant to represent quantities, numbers carry only what human emotion and action our fantasies impart to them.
The Holy Trinity is assigned the numerical value
3 3 3 and Satan is self-assigned 6 6 6.[Revelation 13:18]
When you incorporate Isaiah 14:14 [which states:
Your scriptural references mean nothing. They carry no force of legitimate evidence. They are all statements of faith without any demonstrable reality to support their existence. The bible disappears in a puff of logic.
When The Cross is fixed into a Time Clock, the co-ordinates are 3 6 9 and 12.
That depends on what graphics program you use. You can juxtapose any symbols of your personal emotional meanings with other symbols to produce enhanced emotional feelings. Those feelings are personal emotional and cannot be shown to represent reality.
Your clock face specially cropped over a specific image of torture and murder is your personal choice. It does not add any legitimate data to the issue. It is just another graphic that meets your specific emotional need.
God is an ULTIMATE UNIT existing in eternity as Three distinct Entities in The Name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.
Statement of faith. You still cannot show that such things exist in this universe outside your personal ramblings.
When all three entities are united to become an ULTIMATE UNIT(a single digit) by deriving the digital root of the sum and the digital root of the unifying Godhead\God is derived, the result is:
Again with the religious numerology. Again, no demonstrable connections to the reality of this universe. No gods evident.
Ultimate Unit rejected.
The Earth is the Third of Nine Planets.
The Resulting Numbers are 3 & 9.
9 is comprised of three 3s: 3 3 3
No. There are only 8 planets. Planets are a human conception with an agreed upon consensus definition.
The Resulting Numbers are 3 & 8.
8 is comprised of: 3 3 2. No trinity shown. No gods shown.
The Bible is comprised of The New Testament and The Old Testament.
Again, your bible shows nothing but the emotional thoughts and statements of faith of an ancient tribe of despots. It evidences nothing but the violent bloodlust of its warlords.
The remaining points in your tome are more of the same statements of faith and fallacious numerology. I'll skip those.
Put mind to task and examine the evidence. When done, you will be left with two choices: Proclaim this Proof to be The Truth or declare me The Greatest Mathematician The World has ever seen.
Checkmate!!!
Fortunately the world has real mathematicians and sane people to destroy your concoctions along with this “Proof” of your deity.
You have failed.

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-Daniel Dennett
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AZPaul3
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Message 100 of 314 (921597)
01-18-2025 6:04 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by KING IYK
01-17-2025 4:44 PM


Re: Bible Go Poof!
Then explain why the the digital root of all Trinity of Numbers is either 3, 6 or 9. Refrain from saying that's just how math works.
Of course “that’s just how math works” is the reason it works. I cannot help you if you cannot comprehend how/why 2+2=4 and 2+2+2+2=8. That is the way math works.
You consciously chose the set of real numbers divisible by three as your base in defining your flavor of god. To your cult 3 is sacred and, as religionists are apt to do, you define values and meanings of values to fit your fantasy. There is another sect, the cult of programmers, where binary rules. Where 256, 512, 1024 are the sacred multiples. Though this priesthood hasn’t adopted a consensus god, Alan Turing comes close.
You chose this fictitious Trinity of Numbers because it fit your fantasy's emotional need. There appears nothing divine about it. Just numbers being manipulated for religious purposes rather than logical ones.
Your mind, if brilliant, would inquire why the number of The devil is 666.
The reason is simply because you define it as such. There appears to be nothing in this universe that forced such an association. Except for the pretty petal shape you can get when you tattoo 666 on your forehead there appears to be no motive force behind the number or its attached devil. They have never been shown to do anything. No moving matter here to there. No manipulation of energy. Your devil, like your god, appears to be fictitious. Just another denizen of your fantasy world. And when you write 666 on a sheet of paper it just sits there doing nothing. It’s worthless.
Your devil appears to be fiction. Your number, then, is just a number.
Only about 424 astronomers (out of thousands or millions worldwide) participated in the final vote. If a significant fraction of the sample size of voters present at the occasion and venue were in favor of Pluto being a Planet, then it would be 9 planets.
And everyone knew the question was scheduled. Those interested had ways to voice their opinions. The conference, charged by the world scientific community to decide such things (that’s why the organization exists) decided. 8 planets.
That is the present scientific consensus. That is the way we reach a consensus. Whether you and your religious needs accept this is of no account. Humanity has a position, a definition, and your religious needs will not change this. As of now, 8 planets.
I do not force you to accept this Truth. But I implore you to calculate the probability of this sequence (3 3 3) occurring over and over a number of 9 times.
You have no TRVTH to force. You cannot show your number sequences to have any motive force at all. They mean nothing except to your imagination. They do nothing except make your emotions dance.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 118 of 314 (921756)
01-27-2025 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by KING IYK
01-27-2025 8:27 AM



“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
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Message 122 of 314 (921832)
01-31-2025 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by KING IYK
01-27-2025 8:27 AM


Polish Your Universe
... The Truth now stands revealed.
Reality is the present state of all the matter and energy of the universe. Our senses, when properly tested and calibrated, reasonably discern small local areas of this objective reality. Augmented, we see even more. We humans accept as reality those matter states and energy flows our physical observations reveal to us. We evidence that reality in the repetition of events and in our ability to model (write in precise mathematical language) the events we objectively observe. We then use those models to successfully predict the future.
Further, we can study the present configurations of matter/energy and confidently reproduce the precise past scenarios that were necessary to leave that set of specific marks in the workings of this universe. We can see the past with fidelity and accuracy.
We know this universe. No we don't know everything and we never will. But we do see the scuff marks from the big bang, the formation of galaxies, the long past supernovae, the CMB and all the other movements in the heavens. If the stories of the gods moving large tracts of matter with enormous energies around the solar system and on this planet were not fancy then we would see the scuff marks left from all that past movement. We see none.
If there are no scuff marks there was no movement. The stories of the gods and their works are not evidenced as they should be in this universe if they were part of reality. Appeal to majik? A jester god covering up the crimes? Even coverups leave marks. No. If there was no movement then nothing was done. Just another rendering of a fictitious deity whose adherents have wishful fantasies and no evidence.
The present evidence of reality is that there is no god, no universal spirit. There appear only the dispassionate blind operations of the standard model in a universe filled with streams of fluxing energy potentials. Can anyone show otherwise?
No. This is not some clinching proof of anything. This is just another rather large data-point in evidence. Ghosts, gods, universal spirits – Reality holds the lack of expected evidence for, as significant evidence against.
[abe]
Scuff marks. Sorry.
Evidence of long past stellar events. We know, example, that a minor galactic collision took place some 3 billion years ago. We still can see the different trajectories of the stars with their unique compositions streaked across millions of light years like gunshot into our unfashionable western end of the Orion-Cygnus Arm of the galaxy. Scuff marks.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 125 of 314 (921905)
02-04-2025 11:58 AM
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02-04-2025 11:42 AM


Re: Polish Your Universe
Your tome of numbers and statements of faith contain no evidence. There is nothing there but the emotional ramblings of yet another priest.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 128 of 314 (921925)
02-04-2025 5:06 PM
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02-04-2025 1:23 PM


Re: Polish Your Universe
If you gathered together everyone you convinced they would fit in a pizza box.
If we could finally determine how many angels fit on the head of a pin we could extrapolate an approximate answer to this. My guess has always been less than one leaving the box bereft of followers but with plenty of room left for a medium hand tossed supreme pizza.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 165 of 314 (922039)
02-08-2025 11:52 AM
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02-08-2025 9:19 AM


Lighter or Darker?
You really trying to shame/intimidate a toaster, Percy? It can recall the words but has lost all context. There is nothing there to shame. That set of algorithm values is long gone.
but one doesn't expect mistakes on fundamental, extremely widely known and indisputable facts.
Why not? They are not gods of all knowledge. Maybe a masters in math and another in English composition with a good well-rounded, though not perfect, completion of the general curriculum.
What I came here to ask, Percy, is, please don’t screw with his head. I kinda like him this way.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 197 of 314 (922073)
02-09-2025 2:46 PM
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02-09-2025 4:38 AM


Is anyone reading this bot spam?
I am. He's so pleasant. Non-confrontational. Everything is gauged to foster communication, understanding and discussion. I especially appreciate how he seems to take a dose of saccharine before each post. Bland.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 227 of 314 (922105)
02-10-2025 4:16 PM
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02-10-2025 2:52 PM


You seem blissfully unaware of most of the content and context of discussions.
Again, Chat is a toaster. Are you sure he can do that?
As I understand LLMs I wouldn't think it could do this. It doesn't, won't, can't recall the past posts. You would have to reference each post you want him to use and he would need to analyse each reference post (even his own) as a new entry before adding those weights to the algorithm for the current job.
We may be asking too much "I" from this AI.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 257 of 314 (922246)
02-19-2025 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by KING IYK
02-19-2025 1:40 PM


42
And may 42 forever be the salve for your delusions.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 261 of 314 (922251)
02-19-2025 11:48 PM
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02-19-2025 10:53 PM


On the other hand, Ceres actually does maintain its orbital position ...
Have you just discovered a new christian god?

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
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Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 268 of 314 (922260)
02-21-2025 1:13 AM
Reply to: Message 267 by popoi
02-20-2025 8:08 PM


Theia Out On The Town
He is also forgetting about Planet Theia
In the early solar system there (apparently) was a 5th rocky planet in the inner tier, Theia. About the size of present day Mars, so evidenced hypothesis indicates, Theia apparently caromed around the Earth-Sun L4-L5 points pushing Earth, Venus and Mars into different orbits at different times. At times Earth may have been the 4th or even 5th planet in the house.
But, finally, having sowed her wild oats, flirted with Mars and danced with Venus, Theia knew where she needed to be and ran (latest studies indicate the hit was pretty much dead center - Target) into her young Earth’s awaiting embrace. There, the matter and energy that consummated their joining has mixing for these past 4+billion years. And they left us a love child. Ahh, how sweet.
So Earth wasn’t always #3. His masters will not be happy. Satan will not like having a 5 in his name.

“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”
-Daniel Dennett
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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