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Percy
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Message 13 of 314 (921442)
01-12-2025 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by KING IYK
01-12-2025 1:07 PM


KING IYK writes in Message 12:
The Proof does not only illustrate how numbers work but also why.
Could you explain "how numbers work but also why," and then explain how that ties in to mathematically proving God?
--Percy

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Message 24 of 314 (921454)
01-12-2025 4:32 PM


Could you please present your proof in the thread? See dBCode Help for how to use the codes to include images and quote text. For example, if you enter this:
[img=400]https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/Homepage-Model-3-Desktop-US.png[/img]
Then you'll get this (400 is the width you want):
--Percy

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Message 32 of 314 (921474)
01-13-2025 5:54 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by KING IYK
01-13-2025 4:01 AM


Your belief doesn't change what is true.
There is no unification of math and the Word of God. There is no proof of God, no proof of a universe constructed with intent that math be ingrained, no revealed truth of any ingrained nature nor of a Trinity, and no evidence that the Bible is anything but the words of men. Conflating the evolution of homo sapiens with the solar system and the number 9 is just numerology.
There is no Trinity of numbers in Revelation 13:18, nor anything about the cross and a time clock in Romans 5:6.
Someday you will understand that it isn't what you yourself have become convinced is true, but what you can convincingly demonstrate is true to others. It is clear that you sincerely believe you have happened across a deep truth (you are not alone in your specific beliefs - many very similar numerological claims litter the Internet, but you probably already know that - the only thing original on your webpages is the images - the same numerological claims can be found at many websites), but it is clear to everyone else that you have fallen into the very common trap of thinking that certain numerical coincidences have religious meaning.
--Percy

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Message 47 of 314 (921496)
01-13-2025 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Taq
01-13-2025 5:37 PM


Taq writes in Message 45:
KING IYK writes:
Then why are three parts pierced during crucifixion? Both hands and the feet joined as one - 3 parts
The hands and feet are not joined as one.
I think he meant each hand was pierced separately and the two feet were pierced as one for a total of three. I wonder if being pierced in the side counts.
--Percy

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Message 56 of 314 (921512)
01-14-2025 9:41 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by PaulK
01-14-2025 7:16 AM


PaulK writes:
And if you are going to cut-and-paste messages from another forum, try not to make it so obvious.
I looked into this earlier, and the two websites I found with the same images seem to also be from KING IYK. Maybe you found a different one?
But his numerology is definitely not original. The same numerological arguments can be found all over the Internet.
--Percy

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Message 57 of 314 (921513)
01-14-2025 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by KING IYK
01-14-2025 5:53 AM


Again, it isn't what you personally believe is true that matters, but what you can demonstrate to others is true. Clearly your arguments are gaining no traction, so you must look deeper into your numerological evidence and find ways to demonstrate that is more than merely the coincidence of the same numbers popping up in different contexts.
You might want to look into the history of numerology being used to prove things. It isn't pretty.
--Percy

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Message 65 of 314 (921525)
01-14-2025 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by KING IYK
01-14-2025 1:07 PM


KING IYK writes in Message 61:
You do not tell the truth when you say this work is unoriginal. Search all over the internet and you will find none like it. It is The Truth and I present it to you.
It is you who does not tell the truth. Here's a list of the first few results from a search for "the magnificence of 3 6 9: the trinity of numbers":
If you hope to persuade anyone you're going to have to present convincing evidence. Numerology can pretty much be dismissed right out of the gate.
--Percy

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Message 70 of 314 (921538)
01-15-2025 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by KING IYK
01-15-2025 3:47 AM


KING IYK writes in Message 67:
The Proof is comprised of seven segments, and the first segment is rightly titled:
"The Magnificence of 3 6 9"
Tesla wondered about The Magnificence of those numbers, and here I am, presenting you with the answers, The Truth.
Yes, exactly, your work is not original.
You will thank me some day.
Is that what you're seeking, recognition via gratitude? How do you imagine you will achieve that when most here think you're obtusely preaching nonsense?
By the way, about this image:
It chops off the entire bottom half of the cross along with Christ's body. If you superimpose the full cross down to the feet on a clockface, the crossbar does not intersect at 3 and 9 but at 2 and 10, as here:
I haven't seen your error repeated anywhere else, though naturally I can't look everywhere, but it seems quite possible that your error is original with you.
You may thank me now.
--Percy

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Message 76 of 314 (921544)
01-15-2025 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by KING IYK
01-15-2025 2:54 PM


I don't think you're listening. Discussion is a two way street, not a monologue. You're repeating the same thing over and over, no matter whether it makes any sense or what feedback is given you.
Maybe we should talk about something else. Can you tell us a little about yourself? What part of the world are you from? What branch of Christianity? What kind of work do you do or are you still in school?
--Percy

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Message 81 of 314 (921551)
01-16-2025 12:02 PM


Nonsense said twice is still nonsense.
--Percy

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Message 85 of 314 (921556)
01-16-2025 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by dwise1
01-16-2025 12:27 PM


dwise1 writes in Message 83:
Checkmate!!!
Really? Do you really think so? Wow!
What is it called when someone checkmates himself? Something like shooting himself in the foot and then boasting about his "incredible marksmanship".
This self-immolation reminds me of when I pulled this off against a cocky 1700 (he knew I was unrated) at the 1968 National High School at the McAlpin Hotel in New York City. I only know American notation, sorry, gave up chess before the switch to algebraic notation:
WhiteBlack
1.P-K4P-K4
2.N-KB3N-KB3
3.NxPNxP
4.Q-K2N-KB3
5.N-B6
Black should have resigned immediately but pushed on until move 17. I didn't come up with this on the spot. I'd seen it in one of Fred Reinfeld's books.
--Percy

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Message 89 of 314 (921579)
01-17-2025 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by KING IYK
01-17-2025 10:23 AM


The & was part of the English alphabet from around 1835 until near the end of the 1800's. During that period there were only 8 planets. Pluto wasn't discovered until 1930, making 9 planets, but then the discovery of Eris (more massive than Pluto) forced refinements in the definition of what a planet was, returning the number of planets to 8. But there's a possibility of another planet out beyond Pluto, and if one is discovered then that would return the number of planets to 9, except that if in your view Pluto is a planet then there would be 10.
This is just another way of telling you what you've been told many times already in this thread, that these numbers are human constructs and are impermanent. If there is a celestial plane, these human-made numbers are not part of it.
--Percy

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Message 92 of 314 (921585)
01-17-2025 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Tangle
01-17-2025 1:55 PM


Tangle writes in Message 90:
The Bible was written almost entirely in Hebrew. Hebrew has 22 letters. Sadly 22 does not divide comfortably by 3.
Good point. But the New Testament was originally written in Greek, which has 24 letters, nicely divisible by 3, but the result is 8, which isn't one of KING IYK's magic numbers. Maybe the Greek alphabet had a different number of letters back then? KING?
--Percy

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Message 93 of 314 (921586)
01-17-2025 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by KING IYK
01-17-2025 3:25 PM


KING IYK writes in Message 91:
The Bible was written in Hebrew, therefore, God must make all revelations in Hebrew. That is your argument.
Tangle said nothing of the kind. The only one claiming God has chosen a particular language in which to reveal his Truth, and that it is English, is you, just one of the many claims that either you've been unable to support or that makes no sense.
Maybe you should switch to Spanish. It actually does have 27 letters (the extra letter is ñ).
--Percy

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Message 97 of 314 (921592)
01-17-2025 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by KING IYK
01-17-2025 4:44 PM


Re: Bible Go Poof!
To quote text from another message you can use either the [qs] or [quote] dBCode.
If you type this:
[qs]This is the quoted text.[/qs]
Then it will look like this:
This is the quoted text.
And if you type this:
[quote]This is the quoted text.[/quote]
Then it will look like this:
quote:
This is the quoted text.
--Percy

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