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Topic: The Second Trump Presidency
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Percy
Member Posts: 22943 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 76 of 100 (920786)
11-18-2024 9:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 73 by Phat
11-17-2024 2:49 PM
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Re: The Green New Deal
Phat writes in Message 73: In my opinion, the Green New Deal was premature. Again, no one talks about the Green New Deal except Republicans. It was a policy proposal from a freshman representative back in 2021 that went nowhere. Republicans have latched onto it as a useful campaign issue. How many more times are you going to be corrected about the Green New Deal before you finally acknowledge you're being had.
Trump wants to go back to reliance on oil at environmental expense. We can't "go back to reliance on oil" because we already rely on oil. That has never changed. Wind power supplies only 10% of our electric grid, solar only 6%. EVs comprise only 7% of all cars.
Our greed and desire for cheap gasoline may also be an example of our inhumanity. You've bought the Trump Kool-Aid. We're the top producer of oil in the world and a net exporter. It is political uncertainty and disruptions, primarily in the Middle East, that cause the price of oil per barrel to increase, the primary factor affecting the price of gasoline, another being changes in seasonal demand, and another being refinery issues. Rising oil prices have nothing nothing to do with domestic oil production. If Trump really wanted to bring down the price of gasoline he'd be saying "build, build, build (oil refineries)", not "drill, baby, drill." There are around 150,000 gas stations across the US, each one needing frequent gasoline truck deliveries. Imagine if over time all cars, trucks and busses became EVs, and fuel like oil and natural gas only needed to be delivered to the 13,000 electric power generation plants where very aggressive scrubbers clean the combustion products, and no fuel at all would be needed by the increasing number of solar and wind farms. Gasoline would gradually fade away, EVs would become far cheaper just from the economies of scale alone, and our contribution to green house gases would drop by around 10%. Around 30% of greenhouse gas contributions come from power plants. They have to be replaced with wind and solar, and also nuclear if they ever succeed in designing a new generation of nuclear power plants that remove the possibility of meltdown and whose spent fuel can be easily and safely disposed of. And coal is a big no no, which even with scrubbers emit twice as much greenhouse gases than natural gas plants, and far more pollutants like sulfur dioxide and particulates. Scrubbers can make coal plant emissions better but not good. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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Rahvin
Member Posts: 4067 Joined: 07-01-2005 Member Rating: 10.0
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Message 77 of 100 (920787)
11-18-2024 11:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 76 by Percy
11-18-2024 9:54 AM
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Re: The Green New Deal
Around 30% of greenhouse gas contributions come from power plants. They have to be replaced with wind and solar, and also nuclear if they ever succeed in designing a new generation of nuclear power plants that remove the possibility of meltdown and whose spent fuel can be easily and safely disposed of.
The Biden administration recently expressed support for next-gen nuclear...and in a rare case of the broken clock being right twice a day, Trump has apparently expressed support for nuclear as well (we'll see if he follows through at all). Solar and wind have gotten so cheap that the government is no longer needed to continue propelling their adoption (though government fuckery could make them more expensive, such as with tariffs). It's cheaper to buy solar power than oil or gas. now. We've hit one of the rare positive tipping points.
-->“The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.” - Francis Bacon"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers “A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity.” – Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995... "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." - Gandalf, J. R. R. Tolkien: The Lord Of the Rings "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."
1 Corinthians 15:26King James Version (KJV) -->Nihil supernum --> -->
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.7
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Message 78 of 100 (920799)
11-19-2024 6:46 PM
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Mehmet Oz? What is this, the pop culture presidency?
“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,” -Daniel Dennett Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat
Member Posts: 18647 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 79 of 100 (920800)
11-19-2024 9:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 78 by AZPaul3
11-19-2024 6:46 PM
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The Wizard Of Oz
The current administration is the real "pop" culture. Now that many of the Hollywood elite pagans are being exposed through the downfall of Diddy and now that many of the government elite will lose their jobs, the popular voters will get their revenge over being told what truth was and what they could and could not say. And that goes for around here too. I acknowledge that I have blood sugar and rational thinking problems at times, but I refuse to be shamed into silence. As for Dr.Oz running Medicaid, he is certainly better qualified than Dr.Rachel Levine who advocated for transgender youth being encouraged to express themselves and that gender dysphoria was incurable. This is controversial between conservatives and liberals. The Biden administration championed diversity, equity, and inclusion. The part of that that the conservatives dislike is that the "professionalism" that many government officials claimed to have was not conclusive. hence the mega swing back to the right. The conservatives have a mandate by popular vote to either fix things or shoot themselves in the foot. Elon Musk has proven himself to be efficient and smart. Mike Huckabee has governed well. The Jury is out on Dr.Oz. Personally, I dont think that the Trump administration will save the US Dollar. It will continue to become worth less even as the commodities worldwide increase in value and show the true global standard of value. Bottom line: The sanctions did not fully work. And one more thing. When (not if) the US Dollar gets in trouble, don't blame Trump. The damage was and is a bi partisan issue.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.7
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Message 80 of 100 (920801)
11-19-2024 11:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 79 by Phat
11-19-2024 9:37 PM
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Re: The Wizard Of Oz
And now the clowns are running the circus while the chief law enforcement officer dodges arrows after a career as an open, rather careless and arrogant, pedophile. Such class and wisdom Trump brings to our diminished stature in the eyes of a very dangerous world. Only the best people indeed.
“There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,” -Daniel Dennett Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat
Member Posts: 18647 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.3
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Message 81 of 100 (920802)
11-20-2024 12:36 AM
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Linda McMahon(One of Trumps biggest donars)
Trump has now selected Linda McMahon as his pick for Dept of Education. Comments? Edited by Phat, .
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--PercyGod alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! Its all in perspective of the the observer.~Phat
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2339 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 82 of 100 (920803)
11-20-2024 1:49 AM
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Reply to: Message 81 by Phat
11-20-2024 12:36 AM
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Re: Linda McMahon(One of Trumps biggest donars)
it'll be a disaster (just copy and paste this for all his nominations)
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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DrJones*
Member Posts: 2339 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: 08-19-2004 Member Rating: 7.6
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Message 83 of 100 (920804)
11-20-2024 1:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 79 by Phat
11-19-2024 9:37 PM
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Re: The Wizard Of Oz
As for Dr.Oz running Medicaid, he is certainly better qualified than Dr.Rachel Levine
How? what are his qualifications? his education/experience? How does this compare to Dr. Levine's education and experience?
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17916 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 6.7
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Message 84 of 100 (920805)
11-20-2024 3:08 AM
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Reply to: Message 83 by DrJones*
11-20-2024 1:50 AM
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Re: The Wizard Of Oz
He doesn’t trigger Phat’s transphobia and that’s the most important thing. Seriously Mehmet Oz was actually a pretty good surgeon, but that hasn’t stopped him from espousing quackery - which makes him a great fit with RFK Jr.
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Rahvin
Member Posts: 4067 Joined: 07-01-2005 Member Rating: 10.0
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Message 85 of 100 (920806)
11-20-2024 10:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 81 by Phat
11-20-2024 12:36 AM
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Re: Linda McMahon(One of Trumps biggest donars)
I'm beginning to think that Idiocracy wasn't actually a documentary. It was too optimistic.
-->“The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.” - Francis Bacon"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers “A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity.” – Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995... "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." - Gandalf, J. R. R. Tolkien: The Lord Of the Rings "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."
1 Corinthians 15:26King James Version (KJV) -->Nihil supernum --> -->
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dwise1
Member Posts: 6076 Joined: 05-02-2006 Member Rating: 7.2
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Message 86 of 100 (920810)
11-20-2024 10:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 40 by Phat
11-12-2024 8:33 AM
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Re: Ask Bill Maher
Let the domestic poor compete with undocumented workers for jobs and make work a necessity rather than a luxury. That same "issue" was just mentioned on Alex Wagner Tonight and the guest also mentioned Walmart. Several years ago on the radio I heard Ralph Nader discussing how Walmart operates. First, when they move into a town they negotiate that move with the city government in order to get "special incentives" including tax breaks, relaxation of zoning and other regulatory requirements. So, basically, they receive welfare from the local government. Then they work around labor laws to avoid having to provide healthcare and other benefits to most of their employees. Since they cannot qualify as a small company, they instead limit employees' work hours, making sure to keep them under the limit over which said employees would qualify for those benefits. Indeed, a very important part of new employee orientation training is to take the new hires through filling out the forms for applying for welfare, including food stamps and Medicaid. So they're working but they still have to go on welfare because they are not allowed to earn a living wage. You're a union man. How does that sit with you? Interestingly, Walmart can't pull the same stuff next door in Canada where they're doing just fine. Also, junior military members with families depend on food stamps in order to eat. Or are you going to claim that they don't work? The plan to give the wealthiest Americans yet another huge tax cut (and increase the national debt even more like Trump did the first time) involves throwing millions of people off of Medicaid and food stamps. Instead of that tired old right-wing bullshit of "work requirements for welfare", how's about trying "They're not asking for a hand-out, just a hand."
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17916 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 6.7
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Message 87 of 100 (920811)
11-21-2024 1:54 PM
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Gaetz has gone
Gaetz has withdrawn from consideration as Attorney General. Looks to me as if the Ethics Committee had the goods on him. The Republicans all wanted to keep it secret, so we may never know, but we can be sure it never came close to clearing him.
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Percy
Member Posts: 22943 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 88 of 100 (920812)
11-21-2024 3:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 87 by PaulK
11-21-2024 1:54 PM
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Re: Gaetz has gone
I assume DeSantis will reappoint him to his seat in Congress. --Percy
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17916 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 6.7
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Message 89 of 100 (920813)
11-21-2024 3:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 88 by Percy
11-21-2024 3:04 PM
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Re: Gaetz has gone
Since Gaetz - probably - resigned to escape the Ethics Committee report I doubt very much that he would want to go back to the House. That would put him right back in the firing line.
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Taq
Member Posts: 10299 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 7.2
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Message 90 of 100 (920814)
11-21-2024 3:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 87 by PaulK
11-21-2024 1:54 PM
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Re: Gaetz has gone
PaulK writes: The Republicans all wanted to keep it secret, so we may never know, but we can be sure it never came close to clearing him. I don't know about all the Republicans. The report leaked yesterday, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was leaked by a Republican. Senate Republicans had already hinted that they weren't going to confirm him. I also wonder if Kevin McCarthy was involved, a last stab in the back and turn of the knife.
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