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Percy Member Posts: 23257 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
This paragraph from America Joins the Jackals - by Mona Charen - The Bulwark expresses almost exactly how I feel:
The Bulwark: --Percy
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4093 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3
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Not "attempting" to reverse world leadership.
We have damaged international relationships in Europe and with our closest partners in Canada and Mexico so badly in just 30 days that it will take generations, plural, to recover. Trust takes a long time to earn and moments to betray. Trump has been speedrunning betrayal after betrayal of every important agreement alliance and other relationship he can think of. We Americans are going to find out in the coming months and years exactly how much of our quality of life came from those relationships and American leadership. And this is only the beginning. Trump is outright referring to himself as a king. At CPAC there was a serious movement to give Trump a 3rd term. The Federal government is being disassembled with a wrecking ball, so quickly the keep "accidentally" firing critical workers. The lawsuits around these actually illegal firings will take years and cost more than the salaries of those terminated. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are about to see major consequences as Musk and his team of Shitler Youth "investigate" and find "fraud" simply because they're all imbeciles who don't understand the data they're looking at, don't care about the responsibility needed to handle that data, and see virtually every expenditure as a waste that could have been a tax break for Botched-Penis-Enlargement-Elon-Musk (I dont care if the rumor is true, it should circulate). It's possible that Congress will finally act and impeach him. If it happens, it's going to be after all of this and more is already done. Call your representatives, senators, even state and local officials. Party affiliation doesnt matter - even Republicans should be against all of this, if they're not directly part of the MAGA cult. The opportunists can be swayed as soon as they think it's safer to jump ship. Call them as often as you can. Call the capitol switchboard and ask to speak to your rep, not only their local office in your state. Tell them what you want them to do, tell them how upset/angry/terrified you are.-->“The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.” - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers “A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity.” – Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995... "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." - Gandalf, J. R. R. Tolkien: The Lord Of the Rings "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." -->Nihil supernum --> -->
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4093 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
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Not "attempting" to reverse world leadership. We have damaged international relationships in Europe and with our closest partners in Canada and Mexico so badly in just 30 days that it will take generations, plural, to recover. Trust takes a long time to earn and moments to betray. Trump has been speedrunning betrayal after betrayal of every important agreement alliance and other relationship he can think of. We Americans are going to find out in the coming months and years exactly how much of our quality of life came from those relationships and American leadership. And this is only the beginning. Trump is outright referring to himself as a king. At CPAC there was a serious movement to give Trump a 3rd term. The Federal government is being disassembled with a wrecking ball, so quickly the keep "accidentally" firing critical workers. The lawsuits around these actually illegal firings will take years and cost more than the salaries of those terminated. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are about to see major consequences as Musk and his team of Shitler Youth "investigate" and find "fraud" simply because they're all imbeciles who don't understand the data they're looking at, don't care about the responsibility needed to handle that data, and see virtually every expenditure as a waste that could have been a tax break for Botched-Penis-Enlargement-Elon-Musk (I dont care if the rumor is true, it should circulate). It's possible that Congress will finally act and impeach him. If it happens, it's going to be after all of this and more is already done. Call your representatives, senators, even state and local officials. Party affiliation doesnt matter - even Republicans should be against all of this, if they're not directly part of the MAGA cult. The opportunists can be swayed as soon as they think it's safer to jump ship. Call them as often as you can. Call the capitol switchboard and ask to speak to your rep, not only their local office in your state. Tell them what you want them to do, tell them how upset/angry/terrified you are. Edited by Admin, : Manage duplicate post. -->“The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.” - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers “A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity.” – Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995... "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." - Gandalf, J. R. R. Tolkien: The Lord Of the Rings "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." -->Nihil supernum --> -->
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4093 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
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Not "attempting" to reverse world leadership. We have damaged international relationships in Europe and with our closest partners in Canada and Mexico so badly in just 30 days that it will take generations, plural, to recover. Trust takes a long time to earn and moments to betray. Trump has been speedrunning betrayal after betrayal of every important agreement alliance and other relationship he can think of. We Americans are going to find out in the coming months and years exactly how much of our quality of life came from those relationships and American leadership. And this is only the beginning. Trump is outright referring to himself as a king. At CPAC there was a serious movement to give Trump a 3rd term. The Federal government is being disassembled with a wrecking ball, so quickly the keep "accidentally" firing critical workers. The lawsuits around these actually illegal firings will take years and cost more than the salaries of those terminated. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are about to see major consequences as Musk and his team of Shitler Youth "investigate" and find "fraud" simply because they're all imbeciles who don't understand the data they're looking at, don't care about the responsibility needed to handle that data, and see virtually every expenditure as a waste that could have been a tax break for Botched-Penis-Enlargement-Elon-Musk (I dont care if the rumor is true, it should circulate). It's possible that Congress will finally act and impeach him. If it happens, it's going to be after all of this and more is already done. Call your representatives, senators, even state and local officials. Party affiliation doesnt matter - even Republicans should be against all of this, if they're not directly part of the MAGA cult. The opportunists can be swayed as soon as they think it's safer to jump ship. Call them as often as you can. Call the capitol switchboard and ask to speak to your rep, not only their local office in your state. Tell them what you want them to do, tell them how upset/angry/terrified you are. Edited by Admin, : Manage duplicate post. -->“The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.” - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers “A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity.” – Albert Camus "...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995... "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." - Gandalf, J. R. R. Tolkien: The Lord Of the Rings "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." -->Nihil supernum --> -->
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Percy Member Posts: 23257 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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I know the "Trump administration will be the most transparent in history" guy has left the room, but this is the right thread to note that DOGE, currently taking a wrecking ball to government, has no transparency, as described in the Washington Post article Musk’s blitzkrieg is unnerving many of Trump’s senior advisers:
Washington Post: When you downsize an agency, whether you're the president or someone he's appointed or a cabinet secretary or a department head, there is a constructive and a destructive way to do it. DOGE is doing it in an obviously destructive way. Trump and Musk deny this characterization, but all the indications that they are lying are there, from the blindsided cabinet secretaries to the unfirings of essential personnel to the firing of staff exempt from being summarily fired to the court rulings against the administration. Trump and Musk deny the criticism and claim it is made up because it is anonymous, but one would have to have lived under a rock for the last decade to not know that speaking out publicly in the Trump administration guarantees firing, so of course all the criticism is anonymous. Anyway, so much for transparency. --Percy
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6238 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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But can we really vote them out? Can we really be sure there will be elections in 2026, let alone in 2028? BTW, that video was from 12 years ago.
Firefly pilot, "Serenity":
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Phat Member Posts: 18740 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.5
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"We" can surely vote them out just as we voted them in. Furthermore, we can ensure that there will always be honest elections in America.
By the way, I looked up the political action committee that Percy was talking about. Read about a fellow named Norm Coleman. He has quite an interesting resume. We need more like him.When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat
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Percy Member Posts: 23257 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Phat writes in Message 517: "We" can surely vote them out just as we voted them in. Once the bull has trampled through the china shop, evicting him is small consolation.
By the way, I looked up the political action committee that Percy was talking about. Read about a fellow named Norm Coleman. I have not mentioned any PACs in this thread. I have never heard of Norm Coleman. You are delusional. Henceforth, when you claim someone here was talking about something, provide a link to the message. --Percy
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Tangle Member Posts: 9662 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Phat writes: "We" can surely vote them out just as we voted them in. Furthermore, we can ensure that there will always be honest elections in America. After he's altered the course of history by giving away countries and wrecking international alliances he'll get to work on ensuring his illegal third term. You'll never get rid of him and anyway, the damage will be done.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Percy Member Posts: 23257 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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We already have enough evidence to conclude that Trump will be our last elected president, at least under the Constitution as we now know it. Here's his chief minister giving a Nazi salute:
And here's Bannon giving the same salute:
And here's an excerpt from Trump's Tuesday, February 19, 2025, Executive Order—Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies:
Trump Executive Order: In other words, it doesn't matter what the courts interpretation of the law is, in the executive branch the law is what Trump says it is. This is just a first step, but it is reminiscent of Hitler's first actions after becoming chancellor in 1933 when after the Reichstag fire he convinced president Hindenberg to declare a state of emergency which Hitler used to push measures through the Reichstag that made Germany a one-party state and gave Hitler dictatorial powers. You heard it here first, folks. The next president will be Trump or someone Trump selects, either outright or through electoral manipulation. The USA is dead. Long live the UST. --Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 18082 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Surely the “UST” should be called Trumpistan.
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Percy Member Posts: 23257 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Suggestions from ChatGPT:
And if Musk were given the job of renaming the country:
--Percy
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2660 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
how about we get General Milley to bring hundreds of armed soldiers into the Whitehouse, handcuff Trump and drag him out to a police car and take him to a cold hard jail cell. Or get him at the golf course with hundreds of armed soldiers and take him to that cold hard jail cell. get all branches of the military to join Milley.
then a few days later have a general election do-over with Trump and his loyal Republicans not allowed to be on the ballot. Maybe Liz Cheney could run for the Republicans then. I'm not a fan of her conservatism, but I am a fan of her stance against Trump. maybe have Gretchen Whitmer or Liz Warren or my choice, AOC, run against Cheney in an all-woman election! that would wake up the MAGA NAZIs."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! "Enjoy every sandwich!"-Warren Zevon on his last DaveLetterman show - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2660 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
and have General CQ Brown join General Milley...
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Phat Member Posts: 18740 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.5 |
Percy writes: OK, so its a think tank and not a PAC. Excuuuuuuse me! We’ve never seen anything like this,” said Doug Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum, a right-leaning think tank. ![]() You said: Henceforth when you claim someone here was talking about something, provide a link to the message.
That was Message 515 According to Wiki,Norm Coleman. is quote:Is that good enough? Edited by Phat, . When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy God alone is God *but* God is not alone~Ellis Potter We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed Critics would of course say that "God" is a product of human imagination...but then again God may well declare that all of creation is a product of His imagination! It is all in the perspective of the observer.~Phat
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